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Who cares about clubs..Kildare all the way
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Who cares about kildare..Clubs all the way
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Vote on it people.
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Ooh a pole, first one I've seen since the new forum got going. How exciting.
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Very tricky process JME. Not for the faint hearted.
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seems early signs that it's a big no.
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Yep big no at the moment
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Be very interesting to see what way the clubs vote on this.

I think the county players should be consulted on their views on it, they after all are the ones who have put in the mammoth effort since January to get this far.

Whilst i was and other club players were in the Big Tree,Quinns, The Cat and Cage ect hydrating for the big game on Sunday and Sundays past, these lads were putting in the effort.
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This is a tough one to call. Usually I am a strong dissenter of the county board when it comes to messing clubs around.... still am Wink ... but this situation is a little different.

I will be happy to wait around and play champ in October and November if it means Kildare winning an All Ireland, but if Kildare happen to lose the next day then I will be cursing our luck!!

I would also imagine that the actual county players have no interest in playing club championship in the lead up to the semi. They will be in their own little world now and even though it may sound harsh, I doubt they care too much about a club championship right now.
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100% right El G. I'd go so far as to say the county players have a greater sense of camraderie with their fellow county panellist than their clubmen at this stage of the year.

I was talking to Anthony Rainbow in April '09 at a function and he passed a comment that McGeeney was trying to foster a club spirit among the Kildare team. That comment crossed my mind again at full-time last Sunday as I saw them all crowd round Dermot to hug and console him.
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no matches
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While I would normally advocate playing them my nerves wouldn't allow me vote yes at this stage, however I did hear that Cork are going ahead with theirs and they play the week before us!
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It's looking like we could be without Dermot Early against Down so why risk any more of this great panel getting injured in what has turned out to be our best chance of winning an all Ireland in years.
As a club player I would play in the muck and rain in December if it ment us winning Sam .
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hell no!!
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No games, not worth it.
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Down have a round of their championship this weekend.
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maybe down will pick up a few injuries next weekend then...
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Kildare have picked up plenty of injuries without ever being near their clubs
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True ogie, as for Dermot Earley he's not been 100% for a long time and his injury on Sunday came as no surprise to many, almost certainly been playing through the pain barrier.

From a Moorefield point of view, I wouldn't have risked the county players because fortunately we've been playing particulary well without the county players, only one league defeat that when our place in the final was already assured so we'd almost certainly have played without starting any of the county stars.
But from other teams point of view they might not have the strength in depth to risk playing without their county star or stars.
I can see why some would be anxious as regards possible injuries, Kildare been so close to an all Ireland final, of couse if we lose to Down it might as well be as far away as New Zealand, as I've said before on a previous thread on here injuries can happen at anytime and anywhere.

With the nature of the qualifiers where teams are out virtually everyweek means its impossible for the county boards to squeeze in a round of championship games, but now we have a 4 week break they should have tried to fit in at least one round, do we really want another farce like 98 where nobody really cared who won the county title?.
But I noticed on another thread it came to a vote and was voted against by a show of hands.
If Kildare make it to the final and with so many games still to be completed the county board should have insisted and not brought it to the usual "pass the buck" and lets all have a show of hands, which exonerated them if it was voted in, meaning if a player gets injured it wasn't the county boards fault but the clubs, it was they who voted to play, as it is the majority of the clubs have voted against, so any blame to apportion falls on the clubs as to why its Christmas Eve and we're still only at the quarter final stage!.
Cute move County Board, very cute move indeed!.
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you're right about Dermot KC, it's been the cruciate all along, anyone who was at the Derry and Monaghan games would ahve seen him going down a good few times. It seemed to sort itself out in the past and here's hoping it does again but there's obviously always been the possibility of more damage being done, potentially career-ending, but after all he's gone through, he was gonna take that chance
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Ogie wrote:
you're right about Dermot KC, it's been the cruciate all along, anyone who was at the Derry and Monaghan games would ahve seen him going down a good few times. It seemed to sort itself out in the past and here's hoping it does again but there's obviously always been the possibility of more damage being done, potentially career-ending, but after all he's gone through, he was gonna take that chance

I can't for the world of me see him starting against Down but hopefully he's fit enough to come on at somestage if we need him, of course hopefully we won't require him, but if we're struggling his coming off the bench would give an uplift not only to the players but fans alike.
The nature of the injury means he'll be missing out on valuable training during the build up to the semi, so all in all a place on the bench is best we can hope for.
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Kildarecat why are you blaming the county board for asking the clubs what they would prefer? All the players belong to the clubs, even the ones on the county panel, and not the county board. It is only right that the clubs had the final say. The clubs have made their decision and that is that, right or wrong who knows.
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Yes they started there careers with there clubs and guess what they will finish there careers with there clubs, training 3/4 times a week with serious sacrifices and still no sign of a meaningful match, club players should unite and storm the county board office, maybe then somebody might stand up and take notice. As for the county boys fair play and well done, not there fault the powers to be are not looking after there club mates.
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Ambrose Rogers has emerged as a doubt for Down's All-Ireland football semi-final against Kildare on August 29 after picking up an injury in a club game yesterday.

The midfielder was forced off in the second half of Longstone's 1-17 to 1-5 SFC victory over Newcastle with the early indications suggesting that he sustained a knee injury, but that he came off only as a precautionary measure.

There were also wins for Mayobridge and Saval, while the meeting of Clonduff and An Riocht ended level. The draw for the Down SFC quarter-finals will not be made until after the All-Ireland semi-final and, in the event of a Down victory, the last-eight ties will not be played until after the All-Ireland final on September 19.


Big loss to Down if he is missing.
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big mistake to play a round of fixtures if he is out
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If its an anterior cruciate ligament tear there is a proven way to delay the operation (which he has been proving, because he did it in the Laois league match). With proper knee muscle training, plus the fact that Dermot isn't carrying weight in any way, plus a proper knee support there should be no reason why Dermot couldn't start against Down
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Stonecold wrote:
If its an anterior cruciate ligament tear there is a proven way to delay the operation (which he has been proving, because he did it in the Laois league match). With proper knee muscle training, plus the fact that Dermot isn't carrying weight in any way, plus a proper knee support there should be no reason why Dermot couldn't start against Down


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