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PostSubject: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeThu Jan 06, 2011 1:00 am

anyone know when the draw and fixtures for the aldridge,keogh,dowling cup and the league are being done up.
there was a rumour of the league starting later this year too.is that happening?
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeThu Jan 06, 2011 1:51 am

league normally starts last week in march and aldridge,keogh and dowling in around the 3rd week in feb!!!prob draws done the end of the month id say!!!hardly start the league late wen they cud barely finish it!!
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 11, 2011 9:46 am

Anymore on this lads, whens draws and fixtures being done?
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 11, 2011 10:33 am


Likely to be done at next County Board, Tuesday 1 Feb (?)
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 11, 2011 1:44 pm

Any clubs back training yet??? Was just wondering because my own club arent.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeThu Jan 13, 2011 3:54 am

ANy update on fixtures or will it be the same old same old week before kick off?
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeThu Jan 13, 2011 4:24 am

It's need to know basis and sure who says the clubs and in particular, players and management need to know? we're amateur after all.....
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeThu Jan 13, 2011 4:47 am

Taibi wrote:
Any clubs back training yet??? Was just wondering because my own club arent.
clane back nearly a week,heard theres a side in north kildare back since before xmas,not sure who??
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeThu Jan 13, 2011 11:40 pm

I say a lot of club are probably back this week doing weights or circuit training leaving the running till February. We will probably have a round or two of the championship in April so cant see team leaving it till next month. Walshman love to know who the north kildare team that were training before xmas?
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeFri Jan 14, 2011 2:27 am

steviegenius wrote:
I say a lot of club are probably back this week doing weights or circuit training leaving the running till February. We will probably have a round or two of the championship in April so cant see team leaving it till next month. Walshman love to know who the north kildare team that were training before xmas?
ill find out,cant remember right now
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 8:14 am

Any update on when fixtures are going to be announced? Heard a rumour today that the League isn't starting until late April, any truth in this?!
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 8:40 am

Dont know about the league, but the cup competions are starting in the second week in Feb i hear.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 9:11 am

fionnmccool wrote:
Any update on when fixtures are going to be announced? Heard a rumour today that the League isn't starting until late April, any truth in this?!
yeh thats bang on!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 9:15 am

jaysus can put off the return to training for another few weeks so!
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 8:20 pm

Someone like to explain to me what is the thinking behind not starting the League until late April?

If they are not starting the League until then, when are they going to fit in a round of championship football?

This seems to be heavily reliant in Kildare doing well, if Kildare exit early does it mean that the eague will stop and the Championship will commence?
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 8:36 pm

I'm told the Leagues start in early April, though obviously the County Board meeting next Monday will decide.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 9:17 pm

Should this not have been decided at the County Board AGM? Put to the clubs to decide?

The way the league was run was fine. Give free weekends on bank holiday weekends, don't play fixtures mid week and there will be no team idle for any length of time.

Also introduce promotion and relegation play offs. It's not rocket science. This thing of delaying the start of the league by 5 or 6 weeks is hair brained.

If Kildare get an early exit this year the League will be a farce.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 9:20 pm

It started last year at the end of March, so it is only a week or two later anyway. It's not a radical difference.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 11:25 pm

I'm with Fionn on this one, I can't see any reason why they can't start the league the first week in March or prefarably even earlier?, all the nuisance cups like the Keogh, Aldridge etc can played off under lights midweek.

Common sense would dictate to get the league out of the way before the Championship starts, we have the National Football League starting in February for obvious reasons, so its done and dusted before the Championship proper starts in May.

We were still finishing off the league last year right in the middle of the championship all very rushed, of course Kildare having an extended run meant it became club vs county, the county team will win hands down everytime if last year is anything to go by.

If they insist on their plan to start the league so late, I can only envisage yet another logjam, when this can easily be avoided by engaging BRAIN!!!.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 11:45 pm

Lots of reasons kc.

1. The pitches are frequently in shite in early March. No guarantees they're better in April but it chances are that they will.

2. Secondly, the League (regulation fixtures) was over by mid-late July last year, certainly no later than the bank holiday weekend in August. There was a 5 week gap to Round 3 of the championship in September. The only overlap was in April (which the clubs voted for).

3. You say the pre-season cups are a nuisance but their existence means the clubs don't have to play pre-season friedlies to get ready for the League.

The only logjam is because the CB insist on running the championship all off in the autumn- it's nothing to do with how the League is run.

The league didn't hold anything up last year-Kildare's progress did.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 11:56 pm

We can't organise anything properly in Kildare. Look at other counties. They have the league and championship run off regardless of the county teams progress. In Cork last year the quarter finals of the football championship were played 2 weeks before Cork played Dublin. They ae able to organise it and they have more clubs.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeTue Jan 25, 2011 11:59 pm

I sure we will only know what is going to happen after the county board meeting next week. Last year the league started on the third week in March as fionnmccool said leave bank holidays free no games during the week unless a game had to be called off the Saturday/Sunday. Depends on Kildare teams should know now they might have a month of so from the finishing of the league to the championship and they should have a plan put in place in case this happens. This bulls.ite about the gap between league & championship is boring it happens every year so we should be well used to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeWed Jan 26, 2011 12:06 am

correct if i am wrong started in march ended in july and league final was on at end of august
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeWed Jan 26, 2011 12:07 am

Right are fone you think me as well
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PostSubject: Re: Club Cup and League Competitions   Club Cup and League Competitions Icon_minitimeWed Jan 26, 2011 12:44 am

Rgb the pitches seem to be ok for the inter county teams in feb?

Trying to jog my memory but wasn't the league final played the saturday night (28th) before Kildare played Down?.

We had a case last year when the county championship resumed after Kildare were knocked out. teams were playing every w/end the only two week gap was after the semi's were decided, both Moorefield and Laurences also played a league final the week before the championship resumed.
Surely this situation can easily be prevented from happening again, even if Kildare have another extended championship run?.
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