Kathleen O'Neill proposes the pooling of sponsorship to stop Dubs becoming a superpower

Yip believe to achieve Monasterevan gfc have set up a €5 a week direct debit from development supporters in order to help build a new clubhouse and prove to the banks they have a regular income and can pay back a loan. I'd say its a good idea and look if Kildare GAA set up something like that they should easily get 500 people which would be €130,000 per annum - better than Marty looking for a lump sum few grande from people

Not so sure there Murph. I would be more in favour of a committee working hard to Brian in an income. A definite long term plan of various sized fundraisers, coupled with a lotto. Would show a willingness to earn what you have. But that's just me. I've never been fond of committees looking for easy money from the same people over & over again

Why would Dublin bother with fund raising if they had to give it all away?

Bet she regrets those comments now. They have been ridiculed all week. Even today you could hear the sniggering on Newstalk when it was brought up. Just when we were having a quiet period out of the papers we are back in again.

topcat wrote:

This just looks a bit em pathetic coming from our secretary!! Whinging about the money the Dubs can generate through sponsorship while at the same time doing little or nothing by way of fundraising ourselves. We must be nearly running out of begging bowls at this stage!!

We are looking very amateurish at County Board Level for a long time,Sometimes i wonder do all involved even talk to each other. If this was done at club level in my club there would be heads rolling....Come on County Board get a grip an lead us forward in a professional manner.

Foolish to leave herself & Kildare open to ridicule


especially when


as the recipient of major sponsorship Kildare would

LOSE NOT GAIN

from such an arrangement

Was she just too honest

Kathleen O Neills comments are embarrasing. She needs to take a step back and realise that she is a representative of Kildare Gaa even if she thinks pooling sponsorship IN HER OPINON is a good idea.It cames cross in the paper 'KILDARE WANT SPONSORSHIP POOLED' the majority of Kildare Gaa probably dont agree with her comments .I know I dont and I am embarrased she came out with those about Dublin and then the following day Kildare are in negoiations with Dublin to get money off them to move a home game to croke park!!?? Hyprocritical to say the least the county board are not doing enough to fix the mess kildare finances are in and im not sure there is anyone there that can lead kildare out of it and if its not sorted soon it will end up effecting Kildare Gaa for years. Look at Meath sorted 200k in a year Kildare could only raise 20k??
 
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/small-surplus-sees-meath-finances-back-on-track-29786848.html

Whiteknight

Meath hardly a good example
€73,000 (or was it as earlier reported €100,000) in ticket sales money that "went missing" there and has now been "written off"............... A similar situation in another county led to theft charges & might still happen in Meath

Well if the Meath example is bad fair enough but nobody can deny that 20k of a bucket collection over a year when the goal was 100k is abysmal.
I know people give time and these job are not easy to do but some people are been paid here full time to run Kildare Gaa and its not been run right like one poster mentioned earlier if you were been paid full time to do a job and you dont reach your target you get a rude awakening/warning or fired Kildare Gaa is after getting many warnings over finance and the people thats running STILL havent managed to turn it around not even slightly. Why dont they advertise for interns it might bring in people that have fresh ideas and perpectives on fundraising.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/lilies-call-for-pooling-of-sponsorship-cash-ruled-out-by-duffy-29790577.html
If you read the very first line its says ''kildare have called on'' her comments Why was County Dublin Brought up at a KILDARE county meeting?!

So surplus of over €100,000 not good enough ???????????

Get a life.

or put your name forward for Treasurer (which is not a paid or full time job)

As for the reference to the first line of the report in the Indo:


It was just not true.

One person made a comment in a report just like Liam Mulvihill used to do in his reports and he was often sneered at as well but usually his ideas got implemented even if it mostly took a few years.

Ah yeah Kelf sure their doing a great job altogether! Get a life OPEN YOUR EYES!
I hope by this time next year we will have something a bit more positive to talk about but going the way we are I doubt it! and thats the last ill say on the matter.

Whiteknight:

surplus for the second year & I did not say anyone doing a good job, just asked a question to see if you had an opinion on the surplus (after mortgage repayment ?

Back a few months we had loads of posters taking out the sitting officers yet they all bottled it when it came to being nominated for convention.

Yourself & baba should do the nomination papers for next convention now so as not to be late and have a choice of jobs for 2015 or is it all just hot air ??

KON's idea may have been idiotic Kelf. But it's only a few years ago that you were part of a ladies cb that found itself in a lot of debt. Your proposal back then was to have county players pay. I recall an interview in a local paper where you referred back to some dark age when you were on a county panel and how that was the way things were done.

Equally as idiotic!

BelieveToAchieve wrote:

KON's idea may have been idiotic Kelf. But it's only a few years ago that you were part of a ladies cb that found itself in a lot of debt. Your proposal back then was to have county players pay. I recall an interview in a local paper where you referred back to some dark age when you were on a county panel and how that was the way things were done.

Equally as idiotic!

Oooof.

BelieveToAchieve

I was not the one of the people who went on the unauthorised spending spree and did not make the suggestion you allege. As Sec I was given it, instructed to send it out and sent it.

and I stayed around with a few others to pay off those bills and get the CB back in credit.

So before you try any more cheap shots get your facts straight.

To be fair to the Ladies County players, they just like the CB Officers, got no mileage or expenses and got stuck in to fundraise, with the then manager putting his hand deep in his own pocket. And to further clarify: Ladies did not get a cent from GAA CB or Supporters club (probably still don't and pay a pretty large sum for the use of Hawkfield).

So TommyK: ouch again !!!

As to the subject of this discussion: I noted the comparison with American Football with its spending cap.

Kildare are probably in the higher level of sponsorship and would be a net contributor to a pool but there has to be some equalisation. How else can, say Leitrim with €15,000 a year compete with a county who get almost a million and have around 50 coaches paid by HQ while Leitrim probably have 2 or 3

This is the best entertainment on here in quite something. Indeed Kelf, ooof again!

with a population bigger than Tyrones,how is it they can run a smooth ship no financial problems, build a state of the art facility that rivals anything in this country and any other country and yet here we are stumbling along one problem after another still talking bout bucket collections? Half their population have no interest in GAA!!!. Has anyone from our county board thought maybe these guys know what theyre doing we should have a chat with them see how things are done properly

Do you think it would rival Hawkfield ??

Club Kildare is set up to follow the same lines as Club Tyrone, why do you think the Kildare Gaa supporters do not buy in to the idea ??

B'side blues wrote:

with a population bigger than Tyrones,how is it they can run a smooth ship no financial problems, build a state of the art facility that rivals anything in this country and any other country and yet here we are stumbling along one problem after another still talking bout bucket collections? Half their population have no interest in GAA!!!. Has anyone from our county board thought maybe these guys know what theyre doing we should have a chat with them see how things are done properly

There's only so much any county board can do within the financial constraints. Think someone mentioned it in the other thread: Club Tyrone members pay £500 each and only get their name on a wall whereas in Kildare you get people moaning about what they can get out of Club Kildare rather than what they can out into the county.

Unless people are willing to put their hands into their pockets, we're not going to progress at all. I would hope that with the last set of accounts showing a significant surplus and therefore evidence that the currently much maligned county executive actually seem to have finally gotten a handle on the finances that people might be more willing to contribute in the coming year.

And we, as in Kildare GAA in general, have a big plus at the moment after the charities executive pay scandal. We're not paying a CEO pile of money nor have we oodles of admin staff. We only pay half of Kathleen O'Neill's salary and all of Martina Donnelly's salary. So if you do put your hand in your pocket, the money is going to promotion of GAA in the county.

+1

Rival Hawkfield?was that tongue in cheek ballyboy ha.you should look up the facility.Its state of the art

Garvahy: its state of the art & over 75% of the cost paid by the British Exchequer.

Hawkfield is also state of the art. Who apart from Ty have anything even close ?

Was there recently. County Under 21 trial. County Senior hurlers training. 5 Ladies minor finals and all on perfect pitches ( none on the number 1 pitch which was being rested)

Credit where credit is due one thing the county board has got right over the last few years is definitely Hawkfield - we can question the funding etc. however we are well ahead of most other counties in this respect -something to be proud of