Kildare U21 (2012)

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lastline wrote:: Darroch Mulhall ‏ @MulhallD17
Cant wait for Saturday, back in the club colours #RedandWhite #TheTown least i'm not a scapegoat there #SorryForNotBeinOverSixFoot

There's no doubting this guys potential. But potential is not a word that management are interested in. I have always maintained that it was temperament that holds this over hyped kid back. Hopefully maturity will help him deliver on the potential that he possesses.

We're any of the U/21's promoted to the senior panel yet?

Subject: Re: Kildare U21 (2012) Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:52 am

he is right,what i heard he was one of the best scoring forwards since the 21s got together in all challenge matches since christmas,mcgeeney was not at any training sessions or matches since they got together but what i heard he changed the tactics on the night,wanted everything through the big ff,sure why would a young lad not be pissed off when no ball goes to him and only given 20 mins,rant over

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I know darroch very well I know he can put that performance to the back of his head , and have a very good season for athy. All the lads on the under 21 are afraid to make a mistake in case Barry looses the plot. On a more conciliatory note I was talking to a former under 21 player the other night and he told me while he did not have much time for Barry , he did concede that Barry put his heart and soul into every session, so it was not from the want of trying, I even agreed with the team he put out the other night. He just does not have the ability to get the lads to want to play for him, although Henry helped in this respect. Barry was correct to resign the other night he should have done this two years ago. He has tried very hard to be successfull but has not come up to the mark, we should salute him for his efforts, and this is coming from an athyman?

Subject: Re: Kildare U21 (2012) Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:28 pm

This is my take on the situation.

The Under-21 Championship is a straight knockout tournament. These lads get one chance only, win and your in, lose and your out. To see some involved in the county senior panel is great but realistically how many will start the 1st Senior Championship match this year, prob. none.

Now a good few are on college teams and they prob. train hard because the Sigerson Cup has become quite competitive over time. This squad had potential going on 2009 with a few changes so the county board need to prioritise where they sit in the whole set up. McGeeney wanted access to these lads but again prob. none of them will start in the first match and it has hindered their chance of progressing.

Whoever is managing the Under 21's should call the shots and they shouldn't have any lads on the senior panel until their involvement in the U-21's is over. Ok I can see lads saying what if you've a really talented player, well yeah he's prob. worth a punt with the seniors as well but the truth is we don't have a superstar and until one arrives we should treat the U-21's as a separate team and let the management do their own things away from the senior setup and when their involvement is ended then any players good enough should then step up to the senior squad.

Watching the match on Wed. night was like the seniors all over. Pump high ball into the full forward and lay it off. Unfortunately we did pump it in. Most of the balls were won and we didn't have any runners looking for it. It was painful at times. Win the ball on the 13m line and 2-3 passes later we were back out at the 45m line because no one was running for the lay off. Offaly were content to sit and push Kildare out.

One thing that really gets to me is this thing of a lad failing a fitness test before the match but when things are not going your way bring them on to save the day. If your not fit enough to start you shouldn't be on the bench simple as. They did that with the two lads that couldn't start yet had them brought on to try save the day. I'm certainly not getting at the players but if management believed that they shouldn't start well they should have them as subs.

It's a call now for next year. The U-21 Championship is over quite quickly so the management should have the call on the players and they shouldn't have any senior involvement. After the U-21s are finished then the senior management should call on whoever they wish to make the step up then as you only get a year or two at the U-21 grade.

Subject: Re: Kildare U21 (2012) Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:38 pm

Athyman wrote:: I know darroch very well I know he can put that performance to the back of his head , and have a very good season for athy. All the lads on the under 21 are afraid to make a mistake in case Barry looses the plot. On a more conciliatory note I was talking to a former under 21 player the other night and he told me while he did not have much time for Barry , he did concede that Barry put his heart and soul into every session, so it was not from the want of trying, I even agreed with the team he put out the other night. He just does not have the ability to get the lads to want to play for him, although Henry helped in this respect. Barry was correct to resign the other night he should have done this two years ago. He has tried very hard to be successfull but has not come up to the mark, we should salute him for his efforts, and this is coming from an athyman?

Listen give me the U-21 squad and I'll try really hard too..... I'll put as much time and effort as it takes but I know myself I'm NOT GOOD ENOUGH and that's where it lie's.... You need to know your own ability and maybe he is a nice lad or gives his all but niceties don't win you titles...

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Did darroch mention in his tweeting that he didn't get a kick of it on Wednesday evening and that he was on a yellow card...... yes he was one of a few that could have been taken off but as i said he was on a yellow. The one thing he may start to realise is that football is hard work and if you don't keep working hard at you game he will be left behind. Stay off the twitter darroch keep the head down and work hard at your game and don't be remembered as a good minor who could have made it. That's my advise for what its worth.

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Mr Mulhall is prone to outbursts on and off the field - his temperament is suspect at both club and county level thus far. I fear he's spent too much time watching a certain Man City player! He's a good player but he needs to realise where it is the sun shines from...and where it doesn't shine from...perhaps if he watched Johnnie Doyle's commitment for a while he'd mature into the player he could be. And I wish footballers of all codes would stick their twitter accounts where the self same sun don't shine...................Here endeth today's lesson. Hymn number 214 - The Curragh of Kildare

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I believe the senour management had little input all year with the 21s then he rules the roost as soon as championship starts? Not ideal when all prior prep suddenly goes out the window just because the senior manager suddenly fancies it.

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tomoneillandhissisteranne wrote:: Mr Mulhall is prone to outbursts on and off the field - his temperament is suspect at both club and county level thus far. I fear he's spent too much time watching a certain Man City player! He's a good player but he needs to realise where it is the sun shines from...and where it doesn't shine from...perhaps if he watched Johnnie Doyle's commitment for a while he'd mature into the player he could be. And I wish footballers of all codes would stick their twitter accounts where the self same sun don't shine...................Here endeth today's lesson. Hymn number 214 - The Curragh of Kildare

Lads will ye give it a rest he still only 20 and I'm sure he'll show ye what he can do in time

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Hear hear darroch is a very good player and I still beleive he will play for Kildare again.

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I would urge the u/21s not to give up just yet including Mulhall.

Expect a Trappatoni approach in 2012 from the Geezer in relation to the senior team. There will be no surprises no experiments , just sticking with the tried and trusted to try to win the Holy Grail. I genuinely believe ( and you can debate all day on this matter ) that 2012 will be a defining year for Kildare football. No trophies and there will be a massive clearout going into 2013. As simple as that.

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Athyman wrote:: Hear hear darroch is a very good player and I still beleive he will play for Kildare again.

I don't think anyone denied this - we're simply saying his temperament is suspect. And I hope he will.

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The decision to take Darroch IMO was one of the only right decisions made. He didnt look interested for whatever reason (maybe the tactics didnt suit), and when he picked up the handy yellow, he had to come off.
Paddy Power gave me 10/3 on us winning Leinster, and here was I thinking I got a great deal!!
On a somewhat positive note, I think 10 of the starting 15 are underage again next Year.

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Disappointed for you all , I myself thought you had a good chance this year at U21 , Look there are some good players there who should make the senior setup in years to come , Disappointed for my own club man and the manner of his sending off , but i will say i doubt its was because of his lack of heart , a rush of blood , some comments in the local rag have been very unfair in general , we need to encourage lads at this age , not run them down or barate them AS anonomous internet cowboys !!!! , yes there are some telling facts here in the general setup and methods of play , lets leave it at that ,

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SeamusMurphy wrote:: The decision to take Darroch IMO was one of the only right decisions made. He didnt look interested for whatever reason (maybe the tactics didnt suit), and when he picked up the handy yellow, he had to come off.
Paddy Power gave me 10/3 on us winning Leinster, and here was I thinking I got a great deal!!
On a somewhat positive note, I think 10 of the starting 15 are underage again next Year.

Look - for all his talent, Mulhall is a loose canon. His tempremant could end up costing him a county jersey. Unless future managers are willing to pander to his moody tantrums, I can see this being another story of a guy who hadn't go the head for the top levels....

Subject: Re: Kildare U21 (2012) Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:23 am

Cadbury's U-21 Football Semi Finals

Dublin 4-15 1-9 Westmeath

Louth 0-10 0-8 Offaly

Offaly loosing to Louth... Puts our performance in perspective.....

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Yea, especially Offaly missing 2 13m & a 20m free from in front of the posts !!!!!!!!!!!!!

They played Sullivan well although he had 2 goal chances and messud up both times

I'm sick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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dublin gonna win the final and every game the whole way through by at least 10 points prob,thats shocking

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kelf wrote:: Yea, especially Offaly missing 2 13m & a 20m free from in front of the posts !!!!!!!!!!!!!

They played Sullivan well although he had 2 goal chances and messud up both times

I'm sick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unlucky Kelf.

Ciaran Kilkenny will be some loss to Dublin when he goes to Australia. Heard he was brilliant again tonight. Seen him for their minors last year, he's a special talent.

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Taibi wrote:

kelf wrote:: Yea, especially Offaly missing 2 13m & a 20m free from in front of the posts !!!!!!!!!!!!!

They played Sullivan well although he had 2 goal chances and messud up both times

I'm sick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unlucky Kelf.

Ciaran Kilkenny will be some loss to Dublin when he goes to Australia. Heard he was brilliant again tonight. Seen him for their minors last year, he's a special talent.

not confirmed that he is going yet ,romour is that he is not going

Subject: Re: Kildare U21 (2012) Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:48 pm

have to hand it to dublin and their coaching structures, easily the best set up in the country from U15 right up to senior - and by set up i dont mean facilities (they dont have a recognised centre of excellence) i mean coaches, techniques, and even all the best players involved with each squad.

while its obv v difficult to win all ireland after all ireland, the way they are set up means that at least they look like being in the shake up year on year now for the next 10 years.

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Yea, I would rate th Dubs hot favourits for Leinster now.

Louth have some fine players. Centre back, O'Hanlon (another generation) at midfield and 2 excellnt corners BUT McCaffrey, Kilknny etc should be a step too far.

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Well its easy for Dublin to have all the good coaching etc. Most of their clubs have full time coaches. Its all down to money. We all know that most clubs in Dublin have a great setup and serious funds.

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Botch wrote:: Well its easy for Dublin to have all the good coaching etc. Most of their clubs have full time coaches. Its all down to money. We all know that most clubs in Dublin have a great setup and serious funds.

Good for them

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Ogie wrote:

Botch wrote:: Well its easy for Dublin to have all the good coaching etc. Most of their clubs have full time coaches. Its all down to money. We all know that most clubs in Dublin have a great setup and serious funds.

Good for them

I know. Im not slagging Dublin. I am envious of the size of their clubs and the full time setup a lot of them seem to have.

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