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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2019 12:15 pm

Just back from Enniskillen, long enough to calm down, and there is no redemption around the corner on this one, pathetic is too kind a word, the last chance saloon is out of liqueur, " Next........."..
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2019 1:04 pm

It’s a case of the Emperors new clothes with CON.

He got off Scott free having went a year without winning a game, and being beaten by Carlow. A national campaign motivated his players (something he clearly can’t do) to beat Mayo and spare CON his job.

As everybody has already stated the world and his dog knew how Fermanagh would set up tonight, we played into their hands - went in at half time having scored 3 points (1 from play) - so what did CON change at half time - fuck all - went out in the 2nd half and played the very same way, with (amazingly) the very same results, 3 points (none from play).

If I hadn’t wasted 9 hrs of my life travelling up and down to witness that shite, I’d never have believed how bad it was.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2019 8:36 pm

It seems that it wasn't just the blanket defence. Like, it would be one thing if we dominated but just couldn't break through but it sounds like Fermanagh played us off the park, particularly in the first half. Had they been a bit more accurate, they'd have been out of sight.

I wonder was there a huge difference in the weather between Enniskillen and Tralee? The pitch and the conditions can't be excuses. 0-6 in 70 minutes of football is pathetic.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2019 8:47 pm

Just watched back Kerry v Dublin and yes there was a big difference in the conditions, weather in Eniskillen was much better, no wind or rain to speak of. An extremely poor performance by Kildare backward sideways backward again then a turnover. Against teams like that, hoofing it in can sometimes be the best option.

Our discipline is atrocious as well, played 6 games this season and have had a player sent off in 3 of them. This has to be one of O Neills priorities over the next few weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2019 9:45 pm

While the results v both Armagh and Cork were dogged and gutsy.. if we're honest, we got outa jail a bit in both.. last night was just chronic.. how is it even possible to only score ONE Point from play in 70 plus minutes .. fck sake it's Inter County Football.. and as was well flaged on here all Week, how Fermanagh were gonna set up.. I give up.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2019 9:59 pm

Horrible, horrible game to watch but i knew it would be. Error count was huge, granted they made life difficult but too many poorly executed kicks and sloppy handpasses. As bad as it was to watch it must have been much worse to play in.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2019 11:48 pm

Fermanaghs league and champ form
2019
Kildare 8 - 6
Tipp 2-5 a piece
Cork 1-5 to 8 Ferm

Champ 2018
Beat Armagh 12 to 7 having lost to them in Div3 final and drawn in league.
Beat Monaghan.

Hammered by Donegal and KILDARE. Missing 5 or 6 from that day.

2018 League lost by 2 to Westmeath and 2 to Armagh in Final.

They are a horrible team to play against but you have to respect their record. Tough to score against and beat unless you are on top form.

Missing a third of a team from last year reflected.

No doubt it was horrendous and there are learnings but i would pay more attention to performance against Donegal, Tipp, Clare and Meath than this.

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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 12:15 am

It’s just Groundhog Day under O’Neill, the same defects keep costing us. Panicky under pressure, can’t unpick blanket defences, no discipline.

As for next game, morale will be shaky, and Clare have some pacy players who tend to exploit the space in our defence. They might be due a win against us.

Struggling to find silver lining on this one.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 12:17 am

Some nice stats doing rounds on Twitter...

The last time we only managed one point from play in a game: 1983. Also probably last time we finished a match with 15 men.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 12:21 am

Learnings, no offence ixus this squad should have PHd's in the amount of Learnings we are supposed to have taken in. I just can't get over we scored one point from play in 74 minutes. If they had of kept having a go from distance they would probably get 4 out of 10.

I genuinely starting to think it's the manager who has them playing this way. There are too many decent footballers to play that badly in that manner. It's just an overnight thing either. Carlow illuminates last year like a beacon.

I don't know what the answer is, because I don't know the right question. Is it the players, is it the tactics, is it the manager or is it all three. One step forward 5 steps back.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 12:45 am

Carlow should be a distant memory but not forgotten. Shouldn't use a stick to beat players with.

I've shown Fermanagh are a nightmare. They've conceded 6.3 scores per game this league and smothered Armagh and Monaghan with it last year.

Kildare learned and destroyed it last year.

A lot of new players and I'm sure Fermanagh used last year as motivation. Nl

Need to be better at parking results and not carrying the negativity.

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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 1:05 am

Bring back three hand pass rule
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 1:39 am

Hard not to be negative after that ixus.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 2:53 am

With the results the way they went today we could easily be relegated. A win last night would have had us sitting top a point clear. We really bottled it.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 2:57 am


Clare 3-13 Cork 1-10, Cusack Park
Meath 2-13 Armagh 0-13, Páirc Tailteann
Tipperary 3-09 Donegal 0-13, Semple Stadium

Some comprehensive wins alright.
Could be relegated, could be promoted. Everyone on 3/4 points except Cork.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 3:14 am

We still have to play those 3 teams who won today. It might be that our first 2 games were against the weakest teams in this division.
Our opponents are all scoring goals, we are not and are relying on our goalkeeper to stop conceding more.
I genuinely think relegation is a option now. Hard to believe I know.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 3:33 am

Certainly no easy games, and it could go either way for us now.. CON needs to step up now, as relegation just isn't acceptable..
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Could be worse.. London 2-11. Wexford 8.
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Results certainly went our way today
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 4:29 am

Clare game has taken on huge significance now. A defeat and it’s going to be a long remainder of league. Hugely worrying that we looked so devoid of ideas both on pitch and sideline last night. You’d to worry that players aren’t putting in a proper shift for management at best of times
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 6:20 am

Guess which county scored the least from a national League game this weekend ?
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 6:36 am

Anyone hear any interview from CON since the match. He's usually not shy but I haven't heard a peep out of him.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 6:44 am

We lose a lot of games and produce some dreadful performances under CON. His record can't be much better than Jason's at this stage. I hope Davy Burke sticks around and gets his chance in the near future. We can't afford to be too loyal to a manager if we keep producing performances like last night.
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PostSubject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare   Fermanagh v Kildare - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2019 7:08 am

Paddy brophy,Peter Kelly ,Paul Cribbin and Kevin Flynn not available last night.if available would have different
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Newbridgeornowhere wrote:
Paddy brophy,Peter Kelly ,Paul Cribbin and Kevin Flynn not available last night.if available would have different

How do you know?
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