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SamMaguire Senior
Posts : 262 Join date : 2010-06-30
| Subject: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:28 am | |
| http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2010/0910/1224278569092.htmlLooks like they've decided to bury their head in the sand when it comes to video technology. Players and mentors are investing too much time and energy for games to be decided by incorrect decisions. How many more controversial incidents will it take for them to move on this. Surely it could be introduced for game changing incidents (goals, penalty incidents, red cards) to eliminate obvious errors eg Joe Sherdian's goal and the Benny Coulter square ball. It won't eliminate all controversy but it'll be an improvement if we're debating line balls or free kicks rather than goals and sending offs. I'm sure we could all live with a few seconds delay if it meant that correct decisions would result. | |
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Stonecold All-Star
Posts : 1090 Join date : 2010-07-04
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:51 am | |
| Cooney is of the Bertie & Cowen generation of leaders. Leaders that hide behind rules & rhetoric. The Japanese have a proverb "Fix the problem, not the blame" none of these guys address the problem rather put hurdles in front of the problem. We need our leaders to be men! | |
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kickingking All-Star
Posts : 2044 Join date : 2010-02-02 Location : The Shortgrass
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:01 am | |
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kartman Intercounty
Posts : 368 Join date : 2010-06-25 Age : 43 Location : The Bog
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:10 am | |
| Cooney needs to step down or be sacked ASAP....he wouldn't run a bath | |
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Rex All-Star
Posts : 3060 Join date : 2010-01-31
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:21 am | |
| Anyone care to inform me what Positive aspects Cooney's Presidential term will be remembered for. | |
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rgb All-Star
Posts : 580 Join date : 2010-07-05
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:32 am | |
| Agreed. Easily the worst President ever. | |
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tomcruise All-Star
Posts : 622 Join date : 2010-07-01
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:51 am | |
| Cooney came from FAS.God help us all !!!! | |
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SamMaguire Senior
Posts : 262 Join date : 2010-06-30
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:56 am | |
| Maybe the fence on the hill should be named after him since he's more concerned with fans being kept off the pitch rather than the poor standard of refereeing and umpiring. Apparently he was asked a question about video technology at the Club Kildare breakfast morning before the semi final which he basically brushed to the side. Ironic given what happened the following weekend. He's a pompous, arrogant f*cker. Any wonder the state FAS was in given he was one of the gobsh1tes running it. | |
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kartman Intercounty
Posts : 368 Join date : 2010-06-25 Age : 43 Location : The Bog
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:20 am | |
| Ok we need a campaign to get rid of cooney...
and we need a good slogan to go with it | |
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Rex All-Star
Posts : 3060 Join date : 2010-01-31
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:28 am | |
| Glad I'm not the only one then that is thinking this way. | |
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Fear An Geata All-Star
Posts : 941 Join date : 2010-08-17
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:33 am | |
| - supersub wrote:
- Ok we need a campaign to get rid of cooney...
and we need a good slogan to go with it "Video killed the FÁS star" ? "Rebel rebel, your term is a mess" | |
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centreback All-Star
Posts : 843 Join date : 2010-02-02
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:03 am | |
| gobshites the lot of them | |
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if_in_doubt All-Star
Posts : 941 Join date : 2010-02-04
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:34 am | |
| - Fear An Geata wrote:
- supersub wrote:
- Ok we need a campaign to get rid of cooney...
and we need a good slogan to go with it "Video killed the FÁS star" ?
"Rebel rebel, your term is a mess" I would be thinking more along the YMCA route - "Ya Massive C*nting Arsehole"... | |
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kildarecat All-Star
Posts : 501 Join date : 2010-07-09
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:06 am | |
| Lets be honest we all love Gaelic Games but its a total shambles of an organisation from the very top to the very bottom, the GAA rules and regulations are from a bygone era and unless something is done to change this it will remain suspended in a time warp.
Cooney and all who came and went before him are nothing but puppets trying to regulate something they can't regulate because the GAA ethos of amateurism and fair play keeps both their hands tied firmly behind their backs!. | |
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losthope All-Star
Posts : 604 Join date : 2010-01-31 Age : 139
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:21 am | |
| Fair play may be part of the Gaa's ethos, but I have never seen it applied. | |
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kickingking All-Star
Posts : 2044 Join date : 2010-02-02 Location : The Shortgrass
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:27 am | |
| We're all in agreement that Cooney is a fairly pathetic president but I'm kind of in agreement with him on the video technology.
If this Hawk Eye thing can be put on the posts and an electronic signal can be sent instantly to the referee that the ball has passed between them than surely it's a no brainer though. It will ensure 100% accuracy on umpiring decisions and won't require the match to be stopped for a video replay to be reviewed after every disputed score. Surely it should be trialed in the O'Byrne, McGrath, FBD League etc. at least? | |
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kartman Intercounty
Posts : 368 Join date : 2010-06-25 Age : 43 Location : The Bog
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:26 pm | |
| I wonder,if a proposal is put forward at congress next year and its voted upon in favour of video technology then can the Gaa still refuse to try it? | |
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SamMaguire Senior
Posts : 262 Join date : 2010-06-30
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:23 pm | |
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Fear An Geata All-Star
Posts : 941 Join date : 2010-08-17
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:18 pm | |
| Interesting to see Galway supporters threatening to boycott the u21 Hurling final over the unfairness of putting the match on in Thurles.
Fair play to them. The only way Croke Park will listen to what the man on the street wants is when it hits them where it hurts most .... their pockets. | |
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Loads of Pints All-Star
Posts : 613 Join date : 2010-07-15 Location : on the fence...
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:27 pm | |
| - Fear An Geata wrote:
- Interesting to see Galway supporters threatening to boycott the u21 Hurling final over the unfairness of putting the match on in Thurles.
Fair play to them. The only way Croke Park will listen to what the man on the street wants is when it hits them where it hurts most .... their pockets. bolox. so you think by abandonning their own team for an all ireland final to 'make a stand against the administration' is a good thing? sure thurles is the best playing sod for hurling in the country, many hurlers will tell you that. its not far away from galway either, no point bringing it to limerick or cork or portlaoise. why 'supporters' would abandon their team for an all ireland is beyond me. | |
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Stonecold All-Star
Posts : 1090 Join date : 2010-07-04
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:50 pm | |
| Having Thurles as the venue was decided months ago. Like most meetings and conventions delegates seem to sleep their way through them and actually forget what they decided. | |
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Jimmy winning matches All-Star
Posts : 2769 Join date : 2010-01-31 Location : kildare
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:13 am | |
| - supersub wrote:
- Ok we need a campaign to get rid of cooney...
and we need a good slogan to go with it he some langer | |
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Fear An Geata All-Star
Posts : 941 Join date : 2010-08-17
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:31 am | |
| - Loads of Pints wrote:
- Fear An Geata wrote:
- Interesting to see Galway supporters threatening to boycott the u21 Hurling final over the unfairness of putting the match on in Thurles.
Fair play to them. The only way Croke Park will listen to what the man on the street wants is when it hits them where it hurts most .... their pockets. bolox. so you think by abandonning their own team for an all ireland final to 'make a stand against the administration' is a good thing? sure thurles is the best playing sod for hurling in the country, many hurlers will tell you that. its not far away from galway either, no point bringing it to limerick or cork or portlaoise. why 'supporters' would abandon their team for an all ireland is beyond me. Ok, a bit of an over reaction but the point I should have been making was that a lot of Croke Park's decisions are money orientated:- 1) The decision to play the u/21 final in Thurles was originally taken because of the small attendances at these finals and the cost of opening up Croke Park. When Tipperary reached the final it could easily have been moved to Limerick, Tullamore or Ennis. If our u/21's had been asked to play Kerry in Killarney a couple of years ago how would we have felt. 2) The decision to erect the fence in front of Hill 16 in an effort to keep people off the pitch similarly has it's genesis in cost cutting in my opinion. Every time there's a pitch invasion it apparently costs tens of thousands (although for the life of me I can't see why) to rectify the playing surface. Croke Park consistantly deny that this is the reason they want to keep people off the pitch and state that player and spectator welfare is their primary concern. Yet they have still to produce figures to back up this claim. How many players / spectators have ever been injured in what is essentially an expression of joy and support for your fellow county man, your clubmate, your neighbour of family member. 3) Why the reluctance to introduce video technology ? I know that the argument is being made that it will interupt the flow of our games with constant stoppages. However, if it were confined to rulings on contentious scores this argument wouldn't hold up. Decisions could be made quicker than some of those that are currently being made (when refs have to go to consult with their umpires). Cost I believe is the big deterrant once more. I know the person who developed the Hawkeye system told the GAA they could have the software for free, but I'd imagine it will cost a few quid to install the necessary sensors in all the county grounds around the country. Then there will be the cost of having the extra bodies on match days sitting in a booth reviewing these calls. These and other decisions should not be made based on cost. They need to be made in the best interests of (a) the players; and (b) the spectators. If the powers that be continue to act in a manner that is far removed from the views of the grass roots of the association then people will begin to vote with their feet. | |
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SamMaguire Senior
Posts : 262 Join date : 2010-06-30
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:34 am | |
| Agree with you there Fear, I think most decisions in the GAA are taken with money in mind. The fence being a prime example. I thought Cooney was going to wet himself on Sunday he was so happy that the supporters didn't manage to get onto the pitch. They could have their hands full keeping the Down and Cork fans back next Sunday.
In terms of video technology, I think they should look at the situation in tennis where you can refer a certain number of calls to a video official. McGeeney could have challenged Coulter goal and it would have been disallowed. Likewise with Sheridans goal against Louth. If something proves inconclusive after looking at the video then the referees original decision would stand. If teams only have 2/3 challenges per game it wouldn't interrupt the game much and they would be inclined to use them sparingly. Referees get most decisions right in fairness but at least this system would make sure that major mistakes don't happen. | |
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Jimmy winning matches All-Star
Posts : 2769 Join date : 2010-01-31 Location : kildare
| Subject: Re: Cooney rules out the use of video technology Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:19 am | |
| before next seasons starts cooney should that match officals to specsavers for eye test | |
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