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kelf All-Star
Posts : 1031 Join date : 2010-09-19
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:34 am | |
| Kildare must find a way to free the runners from behind the ball to make runs off the the shoulder.
Monaghan just slowed lads up by obstructing and a bit of holding.
Galway have become specialists in the pulling back and holding the players behind the play.
Blatant example was K Young being swung out off 30 yards behind. Now he did what a lot of frustrated lads would in the circumstances. He gave the lad a clip............. Sure it was Red Card BUT holding a player back to prevent his run is A BLACK, but the ref failed to issue it........... and Kildare can expect the same on Sunday so they have to come up with a way to counter that tactic..
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Bángoléir Junior A
Posts : 23 Join date : 2018-07-19
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:52 am | |
| My first post, so excited!
Yes we need to deal better with the cynical, off the ball stuff. Checking runs, shepherding etc. But as supporters in a home match we cam affect that too. We need to scream like f*ckin banshees when it happens, and point at the guilty party. It won't affect a strong ref at first but him and his linesman can't ignore it for 70 mins. Our own lads will get a bit of energy from the indignation of the crowd too. Think of it the other way round, imagine getting the same treatment Killian Young did and having your own crowd being silent about it.
The chat about Monaghan was interesting but I'd like to double up on one point which is fatigue. CON mentioned mental fatigue dyer the game. I was worried about it before the game and I think it had to be a factor. The frustration of playing with a wet ball on a slippy pitch would add hugely to it. Shots that were on target were dropping 1m short, that saps your enthusiasm.
Well there can be none of that this Sunday. As supporters this is another thing going we can affect. It's Galway in a quarter final at Newbridge! A dream tie! There'll be times this game isn't going our way (remember Mayo kicked 5 in a row in the first half?) We can't let that drain the enthusiasm in the stands or it'll follow on the pitch. Even playing below par against a good team last week we were still there til the end. This team is good enough to beat Galway. We need to believe that and transmit every ounce of that belief to them and to those Galway players on Sunday. It's our house and it'll be our day. | |
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lillyboy All-Star
Posts : 905 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:07 am | |
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Kildare98 All-Star
Posts : 3213 Join date : 2013-01-12
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:20 am | |
| There was a lot said about atmosphere on Sunday... It actually wasn't bad during the second half of our match.
The tension during the last 20 minutes was unbearable. Definitely the best match of the weekend although admittedly not much competition (ie. none). | |
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moatesports All-Star
Posts : 628 Join date : 2012-08-23
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:26 am | |
| I agree the Galway kerry game was a bore fest actually the kildare kerry under twenty game was compelling viewing for last ten minutes it seemed like it would never end | |
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Taibi All-Star
Posts : 2220 Join date : 2011-01-10
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:50 am | |
| Will this game be sold out? Tickets plentiful in shops and online. €25 is very steep.
Really hope we tear these a new one, always found them very arrogant.
Not sure who's going to deal with Comer at FF. Hyland, Kelly or O'Grady don't have the strength. Johnny Byrne possibly? One thing is for sure, we have to move that ball from the back to front 10 times quicker than the Monaghan game. Hopefully the rain stays away. | |
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johnsmyth Intercounty
Posts : 359 Join date : 2010-06-22
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:56 am | |
| It’ll be such a shame if we limp out of it Sunday. There are some huge positives in the last month and the lads should try and draw on them. After losing to Dublin last year we went on an awful run of losing. To be a good team there really needs to be a bit of belief and that one defeat by a small margin should not break down the process and the spirit.
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SeamusMurphy All-Star
Posts : 4040 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:03 pm | |
| Who'll pick up Shane Walsh I wonder ?. | |
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topcat All-Star
Posts : 1725 Join date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:38 pm | |
| Would Kevin Flynn be the man for Walsh, Walsh will wear 13 or 15 but spend the majority of the game out around midfield picking up easy ball and then running at the defense, Flynn definitely has the pace for him, not sure any of our remaining defenders do.
It may hurt us in an attaking sense as Flynn has launched a lot of attacks for us from wing back over the last few games and even in the Carlow game. | |
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SeamusMurphy All-Star
Posts : 4040 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:21 pm | |
| He's the obvious one TC.. but it would be a big ask as He likes to attack aswell.. an on song Walsh is a match winner. | |
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Ogie All-Star
Posts : 2572 Join date : 2010-01-31
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:02 pm | |
| Flynn is crucial to Kildare's attacking plan - HG has said it here many times, it's what makes / made Lee Keegan the best footballer in the country (well the best footballer in the country is my addition but I think he might agree)... he could score regularly while absolutely nullifying the opposition's prime attacking threat - and do it consistently, on the biggest days. Don't know too many that could do that. Of course the best way to occupy a lad is to have him chasing you, but what if it's a game of chicken and he DOESN'T follow you. That's where systems worked on over months and years come in, not something worked on for a week, where someone just drops in. But of course if it was someone like Feely or Moolick, Galway would look to move it quickly to expose the pace differential. That's why I love all these systems. Far better tactical minds than me try to work out ways to beat what the other offers but then, harder, is to show the players how to do it and then get them to be able to apply it in real time. Very difficult. That it makes Brolly and old guys like myself go apoplectic and harking back to the days when people kept kicking the ball away is just the cherry on top. | |
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white boy Senior
Posts : 185 Join date : 2013-03-19 Age : 59 Location : kildare
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:00 am | |
| kildare need to Throw the Kitchen sink at Galway on Sunday.If we can open up a lead 4 or 5p Galway game plan will come undone.That the way to go at this Game.If you're 5p down your gone. | |
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Kicking bird Junior C
Posts : 9 Join date : 2018-02-24
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:49 am | |
| Completely agree "White boy" and TBH this set of Kildare lads don't possess a natural football brain (Cuteness) to play any other way. And I hear this "shite" of playing Kevin Feeley in full forward. Them man is a natural midfielder/play maker. He doesn't posses serious pace and my granny would turn quicker. Potentially a fab player but NOT a Full forward albeit he can roam in 2 or 3 times to catch a high ball. Again, I feel its a 50/50 game, Conroy is a huge loss for them so if we can cut supply from the middle we have a chance. Anyone know why James Murray is not getting much of a look in? For me he is the most natural defender with a Football brain on this team and Id love to see him play alongside Doyle as two number 6s together.
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Kildare98 All-Star
Posts : 3213 Join date : 2013-01-12
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:31 am | |
| Ogie I would definitely agree on Keegan being best footballer in the country. Funny, if I was picking my all-time 15, I would have Keegan and Tomas O Se as the wing backs - and RTE had the unique opportunity of having them both on as analysts last weekend. I really wanted to hear what they had to say about the game, but for some reason they had, er, Joe Brolly in the middle of them. Yet another reason why RTE's football coverage is utterly shit.
Anyway, as for Galway game... I said before Monaghan match that objectively you had to fancy them, and unfortunately I feel the same way about Galway. There is every chance this will develop into another arm wrestle, and literally the only time this Kildare team has shown sufficient composure against a top team in a close game was Mayo. Even that was played in exceptional circumstances.
Hope I'm totally wrong, obviously, but when you also throw in mental fatigue, niggling injuries, and us not having obvious match-ups for Walshe, Burke and Comer, it's hard to square the circle.
Nonetheless, fervently hoping we do it and set ourselves up for a grandstand closing weekend. | |
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SeamusMurphy All-Star
Posts : 4040 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:22 am | |
| Kicking bird I'm not sure Doyle is a number 6 at all.. imo P Kelly would suit that position better. | |
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Kildare98 All-Star
Posts : 3213 Join date : 2013-01-12
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:27 am | |
| Super 8 Managerial Lexicon
Post-match interviews explained
“The scoreboard wasn’t a true reflection of the game” – “We destroyed the hoors”
“We lost out in the physical exchanges” – “They flaked the shite out of us”
“Some of the refereeing decisions were questionable” – “Fucker may as well have pulled on their jersey”
“This is a three-year plan” – “I’m out of a job next January”
“The goal killed us” – “So did the points”
“We’re trying to get to the next level” – “We keep losing matches”
“This is young team” – “Hopefully the county board give me another year!”
“I pay no attention to the media” – “Apart from the press-cuttings wallpapering my living room.” | |
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murof All-Star
Posts : 1694 Join date : 2010-07-05
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:30 am | |
| For what it's worth I always thought Doyle would make a great full back. Never likely to find out however. | |
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moatesports All-Star
Posts : 628 Join date : 2012-08-23
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:51 am | |
| i agree doyler back in full back line and i still think conway is a no 6 with his upper body power and murray in to cover conways forward runs | |
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Big Full Back All-Star
Posts : 1503 Join date : 2010-10-20 Location : Kildare
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:14 pm | |
| - kelf wrote:
- Blatant example was K Young being swung out off 30 yards behind. Now he did what a lot of frustrated lads would in the circumstances. He gave the lad a clip............. Sure it was Red Card BUT holding a player back to prevent his run is A BLACK, but the ref failed to issue it...........
Cynical as it is Kelf, holding a player isn’t a black card offence and that’s where the art of cynicism comes into play. You can hold a players jersey and not get booked but persistent fouling will only earn you a yellow. To deliberately block is a Black but if you’re behind the man and hold his jersey you’ll more often than not get away without any card. | |
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Ogie All-Star
Posts : 2572 Join date : 2010-01-31
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:35 am | |
| - Kicking bird wrote:
- Completely agree "White boy" and TBH this set of Kildare lads don't possess a natural football brain (Cuteness) to play any other way.
And I hear this "shite" of playing Kevin Feeley in full forward. Them man is a natural midfielder/play maker. He doesn't posses serious pace and my granny would turn quicker. Potentially a fab player but NOT a Full forward albeit he can roam in 2 or 3 times to catch a high ball. Again, I feel its a 50/50 game, Conroy is a huge loss for them so if we can cut supply from the middle we have a chance. Anyone know why James Murray is not getting much of a look in? For me he is the most natural defender with a Football brain on this team and Id love to see him play alongside Doyle as two number 6s together.
James had a very poor outing against Longford. Johnny Byrne came in and excelled since. Must bide his time now and wait for injury or poor performance. | |
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inexile Senior
Posts : 139 Join date : 2010-06-22 Location : Not Kildare
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:04 am | |
| I think this is going to be a very similar game to last weeks. From what I have seen of them, both Monaghan and Galway play a very similar type of football.
We didn't help ourselves last Sunday by carrying the ball into the tackle and getting turned over and I hope we learned from that, though it has been a problem all through the league.
While I'll be there cheering the lads on and hoping for the win, I reckon a draw or a narrow Galway win are the likelier outcomes.
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LillieLad All-Star
Posts : 992 Join date : 2013-09-24
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:17 am | |
| Anyone have a spare ticket? | |
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micky murphy All-Star
Posts : 688 Join date : 2011-09-12
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:51 am | |
| Was disappointed last week with the amount of times we carried the ball into tackle and got turned over, would like to see that stats on that. Also at times some of our lads like Paul Cribben who is brutal for spilling the ball once touched, Paddy Brophy and Dan Flynn tend to go missing this can't happen again on Sunday or Galway will be out of sight by half-time as I think they will more aggressive against us to try and kill us off early so I think we will find out a lot about the character of our lads again on Sunday. As I always say we have the raw materials to win the game lets hope we can put them all together on the day, Cill Dara abu!! | |
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Kicking bird Junior C
Posts : 9 Join date : 2018-02-24
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:38 am | |
| @Seamus Murphy & Murof Peter Kelly is a corner back and he does not have the skillset or physique to play at 6.
I think Murray would work well as a double up with Doyle but your right Doyle is not a natural 6. IMO he is not a full back either but I would love to see him be our main"man marker"
Fergal Conway has proved me wrong, and I would love to see him at 6 and build the team around him but don't think Cian sees it that way. He is solid, strong, can read the game and has a big heart and no slouch either.
Getting back to the game, Galways Cormer,Burke,Walshe are awesome forwards and the only way to limit them is to cut the supply going in. We need to dominate midfield and bring a NASTY streak back into our game. We can do it and @Daniel Flynn if you read this please don't stand in around the square if no ball is coming in!
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if_in_doubt All-Star
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-02-04
| Subject: Re: The Super 8 's Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:46 am | |
| - LillieLad wrote:
- Anyone have a spare ticket?
Won't know till tomorrow afternoon but chances are I will - check your PM's there. | |
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