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coffeybrendan Junior A
Posts : 32 Join date : 2010-07-29 Age : 39
| Subject: Mikey Conway Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:38 pm | |
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Rex All-Star
Posts : 3060 Join date : 2010-01-31
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:01 pm | |
| Good read and on the money. | |
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moatesports All-Star
Posts : 604 Join date : 2012-08-23
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:45 am | |
| class act but not in right position | |
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overthebar All-Star
Posts : 838 Join date : 2010-01-31
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:43 am | |
| Conway is a nice footballer but not class act imo, wouldn't be one of the top defenders that played for lilies over the last 20 years or so..............long way down the line I would say..... | |
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SeamusMurphy All-Star
Posts : 4040 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:35 am | |
| Conway is a Good Footballer, but not as a Defender.. IMO He should be deployed in a sort of Marty Clarke role and allowed the freedom to use His best abilities ie playmaker, passing skills. Cant ever remember him Playing in defence for Nurney?.. Taibi ? | |
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moatesports All-Star
Posts : 604 Join date : 2012-08-23
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:08 am | |
| i agree the year he was out kildare were missing that type of player | |
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topcat All-Star
Posts : 1723 Join date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:57 am | |
| Comparing Mickey to Marty Clarke is a massive reach!! Clarke got Down to an All-Ireland final on his own, look at how they have done since he left!! Kildare don't know what to do with Conway at the moment, he fouls too much to be a back and isn't quick enough to be a forward. The way Kildare wants to use invites attacking wing backs into our half, that won't work so maybe he just doesn't fit in at the moment. | |
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Frankel Intercounty
Posts : 388 Join date : 2011-01-04
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:10 pm | |
| - SeamusMurphy wrote:
- Conway is a Good Footballer, but not as a Defender.. IMO He should be deployed in a sort of Marty Clarke role and allowed the freedom to use His best abilities ie playmaker, passing skills.
Cant ever remember him Playing in defence for Nurney?.. Taibi ? never played as a defender but sometimes plays as centreforward who drops deep or basically allowed go wherever he wants. bit harsh to be singling out conway here, kildare were destroyed at midfield, half back, half forward line etc but conways seems to be getting the brunt of it. fair enough gave away a few bad frees but apart from that he has been doing quite well up until now. he was very good against cork and donegal. he is not been asked to play the role of a conventional centreback so he cant be blamed for the kildare defence parting like the red sea anytime anyone runs hard down the middle at them. if i was the author of that article i would be asking why is mcgeeney playing with what appeared to me to be the same tactics in defence as we did last year against cork and got destroyed when morgan o flaherty was playing the same role as mikey and also asking who is actually responsible for holding the centreback area together. | |
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johnsmyth Intercounty
Posts : 359 Join date : 2010-06-22
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:13 pm | |
| Agree with that Bill. I also don't think there is a need on here for another thread to discuss the same topic of conversation that is part of the League thread. Its not just about one player its the system that makes him stand out. | |
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coffeybrendan Junior A
Posts : 32 Join date : 2010-07-29 Age : 39
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:46 pm | |
| Lots of good points there Bill - the reason I focused on Conway was because I felt he was getting a lot of unfair and uninformed criticism. As you rightly point out, he's not playing a conventional centre-back role which a lot of people don't seem to appreciate. He has become an important part of Kildare's gameplan this year so I think it's only right and proper that there is a discussion about it - I've focused on Brian Flanagan (http://www.kildare-nationalist.ie/2013/02/08/the-reinvention-of-brian-flanagan/) and Seanie Johnston (http://www.kildare-nationalist.ie/2013/03/06/johnston-gets-the-job-done/) in previous articles. Chalky was holding the centre before he left the panel and I think it's no surprise that in the two games he's been absent for, we've gotten a hiding at midfield. He was playing a very effective role there and won't be easy to replace. With Kildare's method of match-ups at the back, there's no one to cover the centre per se, just depends who's detailed to mark the centre-forward. | |
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BelieveToAchieve All-Star
Posts : 858 Join date : 2011-07-18
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:56 am | |
| None of that is personal or unfair. I've said for a while now that I don't think Conway is all he's hyped up to be. His passing is not good enough to warrant a free role. His work rate is nowhere near good enough either. People harp back to 3 or 4 years ago when he had a good spell. That's a long time ago now.
It's too easy to blame the system for his shortcomings. | |
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Frankel Intercounty
Posts : 388 Join date : 2011-01-04
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:06 am | |
| - BelieveToAchieve wrote:
- None of that is personal or unfair. I've said for a while now that I don't think Conway is all he's hyped up to be. His passing is not good enough to warrant a free role. His work rate is nowhere near good enough either. People harp back to 3 or 4 years ago when he had a good spell. That's a long time ago now.
It's too easy to blame the system for his shortcomings. BTA you are always the first on conways back, its like an obsession. to say his passing is not good enough is just unbelievable, he is by a distance the best passer on the panel. fair enough this year he has tried a few too many hollywood passes but look at the passes like he did for john doyles goal against kerry. give some examples of his workrate not been up to scratch? what did you think of his performances against cork and donegal? did conway been taken off against the dubs improve things? | |
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BelieveToAchieve All-Star
Posts : 858 Join date : 2011-07-18
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:48 am | |
| Ha ha ha ha hilarious and predictable retort. There were 12 comments spread over 2 days before I bothered. Yet you jump down my throat. I simply don't rate the boy as highly as you do. Im not asking you to like or accept it. Im just saying what I think, like everybody else.
Yes, when he's in form, he can pass the ball well. But passing is only one part of the game man. In any game I've seen him, opponents run past at will. He'll either foul them or not work them at all. To say its the system that's at fault and not him is just ludicrous. The fact that management pulled him off after 27 mins says enough.
His passing is not good enough to entitle him to a free role. Other teams have copped on & exploit it. As I've said all along, this is the league, it's the place for experiments. Hopefully this one has been tried & tested. Time to move on to the next one now. | |
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johnsmyth Intercounty
Posts : 359 Join date : 2010-06-22
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:53 am | |
| The point about the system is that Morgan was poor in this position too and his tackling was awful look at the Meath game last year. IMO the system is flawed. | |
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lillyboy All-Star
Posts : 905 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:28 am | |
| we can't criticize the system the world might stop spinning. on a serious note even if the system is right but you don't have the players able to operate it is there any merit in keeping it? | |
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SeamusMurphy All-Star
Posts : 4040 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:36 am | |
| Topcat I didnt compare Mijey to Clarke.. What I said was a " marty clarke role".. Clarke is probably un equalled at what he does, or did for Down. | |
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topcat All-Star
Posts : 1723 Join date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:37 am | |
| Sorry Seamus when u said we should give him the same type of role as Clarke, I thought you were implying he could do it just as well! | |
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SeamusMurphy All-Star
Posts : 4040 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:01 am | |
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MD All-Star
Posts : 513 Join date : 2010-07-02 Location : Naas
| Subject: Re: Mikey Conway Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:49 am | |
| Dropped for tomorrow...probably expected but I think come championship we will need him.. | |
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