All Ireland 2023

I miss taibi. Any sign of him or is he still hoovering Glen's car or cutting his grass .

No need to argue about what people thought of Glenn's appointment - you can read it here: https://kildaregaa.forumotion.com/t1758p125-glenn-ryan-new-kildare-manager

People like to alter history in their heads and act like the decision was completely obvious at the time. But if you look at what people were actually saying, there's 42 posters on the thread and only one expresses the opinion that it was a big mistake and we should have gone with Burke instead.

The county board had to make the decision without first getting to see how the following season and a half would pan out.

The question needs to be asked again though. If and when Glen goes where are the players going to magically appear from to improve us? Game plans and tactics can only go so far.
Burke is working with better players in Roscommon. At the moment they look much better than what we have available to us. Undoubtedly some of that is down to coaching but it's also down to the fact they have produced better players. Why is that?

@MickosMen - why would you think Roscommon have better players than Kildare? I don’t believe that. While they have a better recent Connaught Senior championship record than Kildare have in the Leinster championship, I think Kildare’s minor and U20/21 record in the last 10 years is better than Roscommon’s. Mindset is huge, and management & county board play a large part in creating a positive mindset. The players also have a part to play — I believe it is not all of one (i.e. management’s fault entirely) and none of the other (i.e. players have a part to play too)… it is more complicated than that, and everyone has a part to play (including us fans). That being said, I do believe that Davy Burke (he is the only manager to win an All-Ireland for Kildare in the last 50+ years) would get more out of this group of players, but, it is not reasonable to expect him to ditch Roscommon at this time (or in the next year or 2).
Also, I think the current management deserve another go at the Leinster Championship… fingers crossed, and let’s get behind the team and management for the upcoming Leinster Championship. Remember, this is an amateur sport, and an incredible amount of effort is put in every year by numerous people!

I think the two Murtaghs and Enda Smith are significantly better than anyone we currently have. Having three players of that caliber can make a huge difference. Add Brian Stack and Donie Smith to that who are a little better than what we have is also significant. Conor Cox coming off the bench and kicking crucial points too.
I think the 6 players above would get on our team. That's almost half a team improved there straight away.

We have been blaming managers on here for the best part of 2 decades at this stage. We need to address the real issues at some stage. Jason Ryan, Con, Glen, Padraic Nolan, John Crofton and Geezer. They aren't all poor manages are they?

Just over a week out from championship and honestly dont think I’ve felt this pessimistic about a championship since 2015. In Leinster we may well beat Wicklow, against Dublin we will either receive a hammering or if we lock it down we might get within single digits, without ever looking like troubling them. If we end up in the Tailteann I can’t imagine there will be much buy in from players or supporters. Ultimately that is our level, we’d be expected to win it but Kildare with the favourites tag is never good! If we sneak into the all Ireland series I think we will be on the end of some hammerings, which will be no use to anyone.

Is anyone on here able to provide some optimism?! Because I certainly can’t.

MickosMen wrote:

I think the two Murtaghs and Enda Smith are significantly better than anyone we currently have. Having three players of that caliber can make a huge difference. Add Brian Stack and Donie Smith to that who are a little better than what we have is also significant. Conor Cox coming off the bench and kicking crucial points too.
I think the 6 players above would get on our team. That's almost half a team improved there straight away.

We have been blaming managers on here for the best part of 2 decades at this stage. We need to address the real issues at some stage. Jason Ryan, Con, Glen, Padraic Nolan, John Crofton and Geezer. They aren't all poor manages are they?

Doubt you would of said that about them players at the start of the year? Hindsight is a great thing. Good players who play in a good system, who would of thought it?? We have/had very talented players aswell, just haven't been utilised. Take Dan Flynn for example, he has be praised for years by the national media and rightly so, but can we say we maximised his ability?

Chopping and changing managers hasn't helped the development of our players over the last 10+ years which has led to no certain style of play or identity. Feel sympathy for like Dan and Feely etc who have put so much into the Kildare shirt to receive so little back. Maybe Tailteann cup wouldn't be the worst thing, unless they can beat the Dubs somehow to open up a Leinster final.

Folks, we’ve lost Davy Burke. He’s not going to be leaving Roscommon anytime soon, unless there’s a bigger job on offer.

News flash- We’re not a bigger job!

If/when Glenn goes at the end of the year, Davy won’t be available. The choice then is to look inside or outside the county. Personally, due to the internal politics within thr county, in particular the county board, and the bias, which is felt against the northern clubs, it may be best to go outside. Somebody not linked to the dinosaurs and attitudes of mediocrity that have been our trademark for decades.

But then again, any would be manager who reads McStay’s treatment by the Co Board, will run a mile.

Very quiet on here for championship week. Anyone have any update on the squad, any injuries etc?

We should hurry up and get Davy in as soon as possible,and 5or 6 games later he does not know what he is doing ,

FlourBag_1 wrote:

Very quiet on here for championship week. Anyone have any update on the squad, any injuries etc?

For a couple of reasons.

1. The championship condensed calender is a load of shite when it comes to the weather. Championship days were always about in the summer, hard ground, gaa jersey on in the sun instead of the pissing rain.

2. It seems it doesn't matter to some counties anymore if you lose in the provincial system.

3. Kildare's abysmal league performances.

I could go on about no.3 but what more can you say about it.

Lastly good luck to the Kildare lads Sunday.

Lots of rumours going around about walk outs in fighting etc with the camp im sure others on here heard not a good sign for Sunday.

I'd swap around the reasons...and also argue that we wear rose-tinted spectacles, forgetting about the last 20 years!

1. Kildare's abysmal league performances. If we were going well we'd all be excited about the matches. But the whole thing seems toxic.

2. The provincial system in general. It does matter to Mayo losing, but they are still OK. But let's be honest Leinster and Munster have been shite for years. Ulster football being the exception every time.

Even in the best of times the general public only tune in for the big games. That has always been the case. The likes of Wicklow and Carlow barely get 3 minutes of TV highlights most years.

3. It was pissing rain last year in Tullamore and our memories trick us a bit too into remembering sunny days with flags flying. If the team was going well we'd turn up.

In fact the notion of games coming every week is what we love in other sports, but instead there is moaning in the GAA while managers slog lads in traiuning and play poxy challenge matches.

Croke Park was not called a kip here until we started getting trounced there. Again, our team is poor so that's what we need to deal with.

In terms of fighting in the camp, I should hope lads are getting narky and thick.

steviegenius wrote:

Lots of rumours going around about walk outs in fighting etc with the camp im sure others on here heard not a good sign for Sunday.

But rumours are only rumours until concrete evidence is provided.

Can we have a seperate Davy Burke fanclub thread?

Let all the fanboys have their own thread where they can delude themselves into thinking even the greatest manager that ever lived could do something meaningful with this current crop of gutless Kildare footballers.

Anyway, we'll fall over Wicklow, get hammered by Dublin and do fuck all in the Whatever Cup.

Roscommon for Sam.

Taibi wrote:

Can we have a seperate Davy Burke fanclub thread?

Let all the fanboys have their own thread where they can delude themselves into thinking even the greatest manager that ever lived could do something meaningful with this current crop of gutless Kildare footballers.

Anyway, we'll fall over Wicklow, get hammered by Dublin and do fuck all in the Whatever Cup.

Roscommon for Sam.

Are you not the founder of the Glen Ryan fanclub thread?

https://www.kildarenow.com/news/sport/1147988/glenn-ryan-interview-no-talk-of-tailteann-cup-or-sam-maguire-with-kildare-manager.html

No talk of Tailteann or Sam = no ambition

Don't know why but a tad nervous about this.

Feeling is we'll blow them away or lose a close one. All on our attitude but if there are problems, head's not up, or little battle in them, McConville will have them primed to pounce. One upside is games so far has shown how far ahead of Division Three the upper flights are, never mind Division Four.

After 27 years in the US, I’ll be returning to Kildare next week, not in time for the Wicklow match or the U20 Dublin Leinster final. I’m hoping for a win in both, so I can have some championship action to look forward to over the next few weeks! Up Kildare and best of luck to the lads putting the effort in for these 2 matches, and also to the minors in the last round robin game!

Team announced. No Jimmy Hyland.

Mark Donnellan Maynooth
2 Mick O'Grady - Capt Celbridge
3 Shea Ryan Sarsfields
4 Darragh Malone Allenwood
5 David Hyland Athy
6 Kevin Flynn Celbridge
7 Jack Sargent Eadestown
8 Kevin O'Callaghan Celbridge
9 Aaron Masterson Moorefield
10 Barry Coffey Sarsfields
11 Ben McCormack Sarsfields
12 Alex Beirne Naas
13 Jack Robinson Clogherinkoe
14 Darragh Kirwan Naas
15 Paddy Woodgate Raheens
16 Aaron O'Neill Carbury
17 Eoin Doyle Naas
18 Paddy McDermott Naas
19 Daniel Flynn Johnstownbridge
20 Kevin Feely Athy
21 Mike Joyce Round Towers
22 Paul Cribbin Johnstownbridge
23 Neil Flynn Maynooth
24 Shane O'Sullivan Clane
25 Brendan Gibbons Kilcock
26 Matthew Kelly Round Towers

Wasn't expecting Jimmy to play. A lot of experienced lads on the bench and where is Houli?

Surely we have a better midfield pairing than Masterson and O'Callaghan. Ok coming up against the likes of Wicklow etc. Fenton and McCarthy will have a field day against them if we get over Wicklow

TheBigDog# wrote:

Surely we have a better midfield pairing than Masterson and O'Callaghan. Ok coming up against the likes of Wicklow etc. Fenton and McCarthy will have a field day against them if we get over Wicklow

Who though? Feely won't be much better if we get to a semi final against Dublin. Not sure where else we could look. Has Liam Power not been involved at all in the last few years?

Disappointed that Jimmy and Houlihan still out.
I assume Archbold is also not right. Type of lad we need at wing forward.

MickosMen wrote:

TheBigDog# wrote:

Surely we have a better midfield pairing than Masterson and O'Callaghan. Ok coming up against the likes of Wicklow etc. Fenton and McCarthy will have a field day against them if we get over Wicklow

Who though? Feely won't be much better if we get to a semi final against Dublin. Not sure where else we could look. Has Liam Power not been involved at all in the last few years?

If Feely is fit he is better then either of them two.