Leinster Junior Football Championship

Subject: Re: Leinster Junior Football Championship Thu May 19, 2016 10:44 am

Plenty of counties competing at this grade are allowed to field what is essentially an inter county B team with players from their senior clubs. When Kildare reached the All Ireland Junior Final in 2010 we were one of those designated counties and our team was made up mostly of lads from senior clubs (Ciaran Kelly of Moorefield was the captain, Tommy Moolick, Ciaran Fitzpatrick and Darroch Mulhall all played). When we were back in the final again in 2013 we were no longer a designated county and the team was made up of players from junior and intermediate clubs (as well as players from senior clubs who had not made a club championship appearance in the previous season).

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kickingking wrote:: Plenty of counties competing at this grade are allowed to field what is essentially an inter county B team with players from their senior clubs. When Kildare reached the All Ireland Junior Final in 2010 we were one of those designated counties and our team was made up mostly of lads from senior clubs (Ciaran Kelly of Moorefield was the captain, Tommy Moolick, Ciaran Fitzpatrick and Darroch Mulhall all played). When we were back in the final again in 2013 we were no longer a designated county and the team was made up of players from junior and intermediate clubs (as well as players from senior clubs who had not made a club championship appearance in the previous season).

Remember that, just seems odd that there are different rules for different games and the rules can be thrown out with if both sides agree. In the next round if both sides agree they'll play rugby, how is that any different, if you know where I'm coming from? Or a goal is worth 10?

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SeamusMurphy wrote:: What happens if we win, and the team we meet in the next round dosnt agree ?.. I suppose we could always put out an u23 junior team.

Solution.

Young fenner was impressive tonight.

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Tommy the leinster championship is a difference competition that the All Ireland series. Any team that entered th leinster champions had the option of an U23 team which kildare decided to opt for. They have to stick with U23 for the rest of the competition. That option in not avaliable for the All Ireland series. So if kildare were to win they can not go forward. That what I was told by a CB official at the game last night.

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Chris Fenner was excellent I thought as was Chris Healey.

Subject: Re: Leinster Junior Football Championship Thu May 19, 2016 9:01 pm

jim wrote:: Tommy the leinster championship is a difference competition that the All Ireland series. Any team that entered th leinster champions had the option of an U23 team which kildare decided to opt for. They have to stick with U23 for the rest of the competition. That option in not avaliable for the All Ireland series. So if kildarewee o win they can not go forward. That what I was told by a CB official at the game last night.

So if Kildare were to win the Leinster final what happens? Leinster pick another county to go through or could Kildare not change their panel and go forward with lads just from junior and intermediate clubs?

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jim wrote:: Tommy the leinster championship is a difference competition that the All Ireland series. Any team that entered th leinster champions had the option of an U23 team which kildare decided to opt for. They have to stick with U23 for the rest of the competition. That option in not avaliable for the All Ireland series. So if kildarewee o win they can not go forward. That what I was told by a CB official at the game last night.

I thought meath were doing the same but changed due to not being able to field an u23 team ?
It's real craggy island stuff.

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I assume that the beaten finalists will go through.

I disagree Seamus the lads that took the field certainly didn't treat it like craggy island stuff and that's what I would judge it on.

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jim wrote:: I assume that the beaten finalists will go through.

I disagree Seamus the lads that took the field certainly didn't treat it like craggy island stuff and that's what I would judge it on.

In fairness they did well, bearing in mind the little preparation. . I just think it should be one rule for all jim.
It'll be interesting to see how it goes next.

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With the exception of some lads getting a chance to represent their county I think this competition is a waste of time. ( and then they talk about 'Player Burnout ').

Only 7 counties in the Leinster side of it and that includes Cavan. Almost as bad as Australia in the Eurovision. Embarassed

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Kildare play louth on June 1st in Newbridge.
Longford v wexford in the other semi.

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Gaa1928 wrote:: With the exception of some lads getting a chance to represent their county I think this competition is a waste of time. ( and then they talk about 'Player Burnout ').

Only 7 counties in the Leinster side of it and that includes Cavan. Almost as bad as Australia in the Eurovision.

Player burn out!!! I can't see how that plays a part in it.

Times are changing ....Cavan in leinster junior championship. Galway and Kerry hurlers in the leinster championship and New York and London in the Connaught championship.

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jim wrote:

Gaa1928 wrote:: With the exception of some lads getting a chance to represent their county I think this competition is a waste of time. ( and then they talk about 'Player Burnout ').

Only 7 counties in the Leinster side of it and that includes Cavan. Almost as bad as Australia in the Eurovision.

Player burn out!!! I can't see how that plays a part in it.

Times are changing ....Cavan in leinster junior championship. Galway and Kerry hurlers in the leinster championship and New York and London in the Connaught championship.

We spent all January/February/March talking about player burnout and when things start to take shape this competition starts.

Whatever about Galway, New York and London which is understandable Kerry should play in the Munster Hurling Championship ( you don't see Waterford footballers looking to play in the Leinster Football Championships and if Ulster don't run a Junior Football Championship then that should be it like they have a fully functional Senior Football Championship in which all 9 counties participate in so its not as if Cavan are isolated.

All I'm saying is that these counties should play in their own province and they own province should arrange the relevant championships.

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It's very simple. Provincial championships should have nothing to do with the All-Ireland championships.

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Player burnout doesn't come from playing games it comes from workload i.e. the number of training sessions. I believe the u23s trained once, so I expect the management are fully in tune with burnout. A good exercise in my opinion and certainly puts young Fenner on the radar.

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Fenner played for the 21s last year so you couldn't exactly say he hasn't been on the radar. From the team that played the other night, the vast majority have represented Kildare at u/21 level in recent years so we are not exactly using it for the purpose of finding late developers.

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topcat wrote:: Fenner played for the 21s last year so you couldn't exactly say he hasn't been on the radar. From the team that played the other night, the vast majority have represented Kildare at u/21 level in recent years so we are not exactly using it for the purpose of finding late developers.

Fair point.. as I mentioned previously, there's no one there we didn't see previously.

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Would it not be better to put all the teams that want to play in the junior in a hat and have an open draw first one out have home advantage etc?

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steviegenius wrote:: Would it not be better to put all the teams that want to play in the junior in a hat and have an open draw first one out have home advantage etc?

+ 1

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steviegenius wrote:: Would it not be better to put all the teams that want to play in the junior in a hat and have an open draw first one out have home advantage etc?

Jez stevie, are you suggesting we don't have a leinster championship ?.. Shocked

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As per Seamus above are Kildare playing Louth this evening its just if you look at GAA fixtures for Saturday its says Leinster JFC Final Kilkenny v London at 5pm in Nowlan Park before the Dubs game, forgive me but I'm confused are Kildare and the other 3 semi finalists finished.

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Sorry folk looked again under Leinster GAA and the Kilkenny v London game is the British Junior Final and Kildare are playing tonight at 7pm in Newbridge, all very quite here re game, best of luck to the boys in white

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From the hoganstand website:

Kildare will once again field an U23 side when they face Louth in the Leinster JFC semi-final at St Conleth's Park, Newbridge tonight (throw-in 7.30pm).

The Lilywhites' starting fifteen for the last four provincial clash with the Wee County shows three changes from the 2-17 to 1-12 quarter-final victory over Meath two weeks ago.

Right corner-back Darren Maguire, right half-back Robbie Tone and midfielder Paschal Connell come in for Shane O'Hagan, David Duke and David Fitzpatrick respectively.

Kildare (JFC v Louth): Nathan Sherry; Darren Maguire, James Murray, Sean Higgins; Robbie Tone, Luke Flynn, Eoin Molloy; Paschal Connell, Daniel Grehan; Adam Burke, Barry Coffey, Con Kavanagh; Chris Fenner, Shane O'Rourke, Chris Healy.

Best of luck to the lads tonight.

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David fitz is gone to the states, the others missing may also be.
Is it louths U23s or junior's or over 40s? .

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Result. Kildare 10. Louth 1 - 18. Poor.

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