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tomoneillandhissisteranne All-Star
Posts : 606 Join date : 2011-01-10
| Subject: Fermanagh v Kildare Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:56 pm | |
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SeamusMurphy All-Star
Posts : 4040 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:29 am | |
| Fermanagh 2/1. Kildare 1/2.. draw 15/2. This will be a real slog. | |
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Kildare98 All-Star
Posts : 3208 Join date : 2013-01-12
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:15 am | |
| It's going to be absolutely dire, Fermanagh will have 15 behind ball at times, but if we win 4-3 I'll be happy. | |
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Lanemusic Junior A
Posts : 29 Join date : 2019-01-28
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:48 am | |
| A strong start to this match is essential. The way they play they can't win if we get a lead early | |
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jimmers All-Star
Posts : 905 Join date : 2013-05-07
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:58 am | |
| We scored 3-20 (2018) and 4-14 (2017) the last two times we played them.
10 scores will probably be enough to win this time. Shooting from distance could be key. | |
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murof All-Star
Posts : 1673 Join date : 2010-07-05
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:11 am | |
| For all their defensive set up they do concede a lot of goals, 3 so far in their 2 games but only 10 points conceded. We have not created many goal chances so far and our only goal came from a penalty. If we don't find the net on Saturday then the shooting from distance better be accurate. Having Flynn on from the start would be a big help and hopefully Brophy seeing some action later in the game. The fight we showed in the first 2 games may well be needed but I have a feeling we should be to good for them. | |
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moatesports All-Star
Posts : 604 Join date : 2012-08-23
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:47 am | |
| just thinking about division one rossies and cavan looked certs for div 2 next year now im not so sure rossies great result v monaghan , now it looks like tyrone in bother . kildare are close to maybe 4 of division one teams , win next weekend and the dream begins . | |
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Gaa1928 All-Star
Posts : 1699 Join date : 2013-07-22
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:40 am | |
| Nice of our county board to put a full round of football fixtures on this Saturday afternoon. | |
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Curraghplains All-Star
Posts : 730 Join date : 2018-08-22
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:19 am | |
| - Gaa1928 wrote:
- Nice of our county board to put a full round of football fixtures on this Saturday afternoon.
some clubs have rearranged there matches already | |
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TommyKeegan All-Star
Posts : 2413 Join date : 2010-09-27
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:56 am | |
| Run at them hard and fast from the off and we'll wallop them. | |
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Kildaretothebone Junior C
Posts : 15 Join date : 2017-03-06
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:26 pm | |
| Wud like to see Tony Archibald get a chance, hes yet to feature this year was he injured? | |
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Botch All-Star
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2011-08-10
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:59 pm | |
| - moatesports wrote:
- just thinking about division one rossies and cavan looked certs for div 2 next year now im not so sure rossies great result v monaghan , now it looks like tyrone in bother . kildare are close to maybe 4 of division one teams , win next weekend and the dream begins .
Eh what. I am not so sure. Kildare imo are a top div 2 team and thats it. We would get hammered by most teams in div one. The rossies would beat us. Cavan would be a close game but I think we would have a good chance. | |
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murof All-Star
Posts : 1673 Join date : 2010-07-05
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:57 pm | |
| Don't think most Div 1 teams would hammer us based on last years league. Kerry and Dublin probably would but we had narrow defeats to some of the other teams. If we had all our top players back and more game time for our young ones we could be a top 5 or 6 team by this time next year I think. | |
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FearBan Intercounty
Posts : 333 Join date : 2010-06-24 Age : 40 Location : As far from play as possible!
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:32 pm | |
| Lads, in fairness, who cares how we would do in division 1? We're in division 2 and at the moment that is our level.
I'm not as desperate for us to get to division 1 as some. Yes, I want to win every game we play and win the division but if we do it at the expense of developing our game plan and strategy from last year then it's a hollow achievement.
This spring should be about bedding in some of the u20's ready to make the step up and developing a game plan that best suits our squad and gives us the best chance at properly challenging at the top table again. If that takes more than one league campaign to get right, so be it. | |
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lilysavage All-Star
Posts : 1110 Join date : 2011-11-25
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:00 am | |
| No we need to be in Division 1. We learned far more last year than we will this year. Despite the 0/7, we acquitted ourselves well throughout the Div 1 campaign, shipping no hidings and competitive in each. Another couple of years in Division 2 and you wont be making Super 8s. The gulf in standard is huge between the top 2 divisions. You only improve (despite losses) by playing the best teams. It really is as simple as that. | |
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Blackadder Junior A
Posts : 32 Join date : 2011-06-07
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:13 am | |
| - lilysavage wrote:
- No we need to be in Division 1. We learned far more last year than we will this year. Despite the 0/7, we acquitted ourselves well throughout the Div 1 campaign, shipping no hidings and competitive in each. Another couple of years in Division 2 and you wont be making Super 8s. The gulf in standard is huge between the top 2 divisions. You only improve (despite losses) by playing the best teams. It really is as simple as that.
This is right, easier to keep players motivated and involved if playing Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Mayo etc. I am convinced the raw talent is in the county, we just need a coherent game plan honed in high pressure environments. | |
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FearBan Intercounty
Posts : 333 Join date : 2010-06-24 Age : 40 Location : As far from play as possible!
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:24 am | |
| - Blackadder wrote:
- lilysavage wrote:
- No we need to be in Division 1. We learned far more last year than we will this year. Despite the 0/7, we acquitted ourselves well throughout the Div 1 campaign, shipping no hidings and competitive in each. Another couple of years in Division 2 and you wont be making Super 8s. The gulf in standard is huge between the top 2 divisions. You only improve (despite losses) by playing the best teams. It really is as simple as that.
This is right, easier to keep players motivated and involved if playing Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Mayo etc.
I am convinced the raw talent is in the county, we just need a coherent game plan honed in high pressure environments. There is no point being in division 1 if you lose all 7 games. There is no motivation in that at all. Remember we lost to Carlow on the back of that league run. What exactly did we learn? I agree that the aim is to be in Div 1 but not at the expense of future progress. If the sole purpose of the league was to get promoted, we would have a good chance but we would suffer in the long run. Man for man, we are better than most in division 2 but we need a winning system that helps the team to deliver on potential. My argument would be to integrate the u20's who are ready into a team and a style of play that gives us the best chance of competing at the top level in the long run. If that is good enough to win us promotion this year, wonderful, full steam ahead. If not, it's not the end of the world. We should be building to properly competing at semi final stage by 2021. If that means we don't get promoted this year, so be it. | |
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jj All-Star
Posts : 881 Join date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:02 am | |
| The desire has to be division 1 simple as that. Think we are in the correct division as things stand and we’re probably better off where we are this year given early season injuries and trying to bed in some newcomers. We can’t stay in the relative comfort zone of division 2 for too long though if we are to progress over coming years and I’d like to think that come next year should we get to division 1 that we can hold our own | |
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Blackadder Junior A
Posts : 32 Join date : 2011-06-07
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:26 am | |
| - FearBan wrote:
- Blackadder wrote:
- lilysavage wrote:
- No we need to be in Division 1. We learned far more last year than we will this year. Despite the 0/7, we acquitted ourselves well throughout the Div 1 campaign, shipping no hidings and competitive in each. Another couple of years in Division 2 and you wont be making Super 8s. The gulf in standard is huge between the top 2 divisions. You only improve (despite losses) by playing the best teams. It really is as simple as that.
This is right, easier to keep players motivated and involved if playing Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Mayo etc.
I am convinced the raw talent is in the county, we just need a coherent game plan honed in high pressure environments. There is no point being in division 1 if you lose all 7 games. There is no motivation in that at all. Remember we lost to Carlow on the back of that league run. What exactly did we learn?
I agree that the aim is to be in Div 1 but not at the expense of future progress. If the sole purpose of the league was to get promoted, we would have a good chance but we would suffer in the long run. Man for man, we are better than most in division 2 but we need a winning system that helps the team to deliver on potential.
My argument would be to integrate the u20's who are ready into a team and a style of play that gives us the best chance of competing at the top level in the long run. If that is good enough to win us promotion this year, wonderful, full steam ahead. If not, it's not the end of the world.
We should be building to properly competing at semi final stage by 2021. If that means we don't get promoted this year, so be it. Last year we did beat a proper division one team in the championship (Mayo) which had not happened in a good while. More pressing is definitely integrating the u 20s and getting the team playing with a common purpose like Monaghan, Dublin and Mayo etc. The one thing that impressed me so much bout the u 20s was how aggressive but disciplined they were in the tackle. The seniors look seriously naïve in this regard. If we are going to beat Dublin, which should be a goal of all Kildare teams, being much more aggressive than them in defence surely the best road to start going down. | |
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tomoneillandhissisteranne All-Star
Posts : 606 Join date : 2011-01-10
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:54 am | |
| I suggest we concentrate on 2019 before worrying about 2020... I'm tempted to concoct a joke about 2020 being a vision ....but I'll resist the temptation..... | |
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lily4fr Senior
Posts : 201 Join date : 2011-01-06
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:42 am | |
| Bit off topic but does anyone have any suggestions for a bar pre or post match on sat night? Never been out in Fermanagh | |
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SeamusMurphy All-Star
Posts : 4040 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:48 pm | |
| - lily4fr wrote:
- Bit off topic but does anyone have any suggestions for a bar pre or post match on sat night? Never been out in Fermanagh
One will definitely need a few post match. | |
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Kildare98 All-Star
Posts : 3208 Join date : 2013-01-12
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:58 am | |
| Last couple of times we played Fermanagh, we blew them away with awesome displays of stylish attacking football - after Navan game last summer, we even had James Horan and Jim McGuinness exhausting superlatives.
Think a repeat on their home patch on a Sat night in Feb will be a tall order... Players have to be ready for war, an absolute dogfight, and to give everything to the last. Stating the obvious but I really don't think we'll get anything handy in this division.
Tactically, it will have to follow similar template to last two games - moving ball over and back, stretching them, and waiting for runners to punch holes from deep. Also need good movement from inside forwards to create options and open up space.
Will also help if we can get creative and use quick frees (which we killed them with in last league encounter), forward mark etc to our advantage.
We're probably going to have to be extremely patient and don't be surprised if at half-time we're leading by something like 2 points to 1. Expecting an atrocious game but it's them ruining it, not us.
Best of luck to the lads. Team I'd go for...
Donnellan (should probably bring hammock with him)
Dempsey O'Grady D Hyland
O'Donoghue Doyle K Cribbin
Feely Masterson
Conway Slattery Hartley
N Flynn McCormack J Hyland | |
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Kildare98 All-Star
Posts : 3208 Join date : 2013-01-12
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:00 am | |
| Agree re previous poster & T Archbold - terrific player.
On injury front - Mark Barrett and P Cribbin on the mend but unlikely to be involved. Brophy pretty much there and they're looking to gradually reintroduce him.
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jj All-Star
Posts : 881 Join date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Fermanagh v Kildare Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:32 am | |
| - HauntedGraffiti wrote:
- Agree re previous poster & T Archbold - terrific player.
On injury front - Mark Barrett and P Cribbin on the mend but unlikely to be involved. Brophy pretty much there and they're looking to gradually reintroduce him.
Kevin O’Callaghan also played for Maynooth, as a sub during week, so he might see action in coming weeks | |
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