Suggestions for Next Management

Cilldara_2000 wrote:

Kildare-Tom wrote:

Lads Geezer is gone from Kildare nearly 11yrs. He is an outstanding manager & players love him but unfortunately you need to have clubs on your side as a county manager but unfortunately Geezer didn't due to him trying to stop lads playing Club Championship. He didn't care about Clubs in Kildare & only for these clubs we wouldn't have county players. Delighted He won today but we really need to stop talking about him.

You obviously have an agenda.

/s

Nope not a bit. I'm just stating the facts. I'm a massive fan of his & hope Armagh win the All Ireland now. They deserve a bit of luck

Kildare-Tom wrote:

Cilldara_2000 wrote:

Kildare-Tom wrote:

Lads Geezer is gone from Kildare nearly 11yrs. He is an outstanding manager & players love him but unfortunately you need to have clubs on your side as a county manager but unfortunately Geezer didn't due to him trying to stop lads playing Club Championship. He didn't care about Clubs in Kildare & only for these clubs we wouldn't have county players. Delighted He won today but we really need to stop talking about him.

You obviously have an agenda.

/s

Nope not a bit. I'm just stating the facts. I'm a massive fan of his & hope Armagh win the All Ireland now. They deserve a bit of luck

AGENDA!!!

Thelillywhites wrote:

Liffey Likes wrote:

Unbelievable performance by Armagh, motivated by an unbelievable manager. Kerry have better players but Armagh have the best manager in Ireland. But we thought it best to sack McGeeney, yet not one club or delegate would ask
one question at county board.meeting about the outgoing management, is it any wonder we are a shambles.

How can our chairman be allowed have anything to do with choosing the new manager after voting McGeeney out.

 The credibility is out the window at this stage. Hopefully more players come out like McLochlainn and point it out.

Nail on the head!  
Who knows if McGeeney had of been let blood the under 21s at the time. The point been as you said those in charge. Are the very ones who voted him out. They shouldn't be let near choosing the new manager. Its absolutle madness.

I hope McGeeney goes on now and wins the AI but even if he doesn't. It proves all those who voted against him. Their agenda wasn't for the betterment of Kildare.
Those who voted against Mc Geeney.
Better not go for the chairman job. They know who they are or its another decade of the last shite ahead.

Perfect scenario Geezer wins All Ireland or leaves Armagh after this year and comes in with/ along with Flanagan as a coach/mentor.
Only one more game to find out. Hopefully Kildare hold out and see how it transpires.

Those under 21s were all ripe for moulding into exactly his type of players too. David Hyland, Paul Cribbin, Fergal Conway, Johnny Byrne, Tommy Moolick, Niall Kelly, Dan Flynn, Brophy, Podge Fogarty, Feely.

I've come to the conclusion and accepted the fact that Kildare will never ever amount to anything.

I look around at the clubs around me and see the chairman, the administrators, county board delegates that attend these meetings. And then you look at the chairman and the executive and you look at the names kn that list and you can't but think to yourself it's should come as absolutely no surprise to anyone that we are performing as we are.

You look at Naas CBS, Allenwood, Naas, Milltown clubs all successful in Club championships. You look at our underage and they've never been in a healthier state.

You then look at our Senior set up which is the only team that has any sort of control and power over by the county board in terms of deciding who management is, funding etc and you look at the absolute shit show it is and has been.

We can appoint Jim Gavin with McGeeney and, Mickey Harte and Jim McGuinness as his backroom team and we will still continue to fail because idiots and morons are the decision makers at the top. Any other county would have removed their manager half way through the league.
Any other of county would have demanded answers at monthly county board meetings. Any other county would have acted . Any other county would have removed Mick Gorman.

We have a long history in Kildare of making bad decisions and being poorly ran at the top. Conleths has been a shit hole since the 80s. We had so many chances and property boom come and go to sort it and failed to do so. We eventually decided to sort it when costs were at the highest it's ever ever been. Farcical.

Larry Tompkins in the 80s.
Niall Buckely 90s
McGeeney 00s

We have a habit of continuously making poor decisions being made by inept people . Similar inept and braindead people post on here about McGeeney not having won anything and he won nothing with Kildare etc.

Every player who played with him, every player who played under him, every pundit , every manager who managed him and manager who came against him has spoken of how mighty a man McGeeney is.
But the good old folk in Kildare know better. Lads with big foreheads and crossed eyes know better, like extras from the hills have eyes sitting the the top table laughing at how quickly they can complete the monthly meeting.

We deserve everything single thing we get. We will never ever amount to nothing as we are a self fulfilling prophecy. Hawkfiled is a rundown ramshackle dump. Conleths will be too in 5 years. We've no standards, no drive, no ambition.

Just look at the calibre of person and names that voted McGeeney out. One of them is our current Chairman. That will tell you everything you need to know.

We deserve it. All of it.

really_unofficial_kildare wrote:

Thelillywhites wrote:

Liffey Likes wrote:

Unbelievable performance by Armagh, motivated by an unbelievable manager. Kerry have better players but Armagh have the best manager in Ireland. But we thought it best to sack McGeeney, yet not one club or delegate would ask
one question at county board.meeting about the outgoing management, is it any wonder we are a shambles.

How can our chairman be allowed have anything to do with choosing the new manager after voting McGeeney out.

 The credibility is out the window at this stage. Hopefully more players come out like McLochlainn and point it out.

Nail on the head!  
Who knows if McGeeney had of been let blood the under 21s at the time. The point been as you said those in charge. Are the very ones who voted him out. They shouldn't be let near choosing the new manager. Its absolutle madness.

I hope McGeeney goes on now and wins the AI but even if he doesn't. It proves all those who voted against him. Their agenda wasn't for the betterment of Kildare.
Those who voted against Mc Geeney.
Better not go for the chairman job. They know who they are or its another decade of the last shite ahead.

Perfect scenario Geezer wins All Ireland or leaves Armagh after this year and comes in with/ along with Flanagan as a coach/mentor.
Only one more game to find out. Hopefully Kildare hold out and see how it transpires.

Those under 21s were all ripe for moulding into exactly his type of players too. David Hyland, Paul Cribbin, Fergal Conway, Johnny Byrne, Tommy Moolick, Niall Kelly, Dan Flynn, Brophy, Podge Fogarty, Feely.

Exactly, he had started a rebuilding process and it's not possible to rebuild without a dip in form but our geniuses just thought that geezer suddenly got useless and fired hin.

The only managers who could create a Micko type buzz on appointment are McGeeney, Jim Gavin, Pat Gilroy and Jim McGuiness. Kildare need to do the same thing as 1990 and get outside help or else we haven't a hope. We need "Michael Osborne" type people in. The county board wouldn't be weak doing this, on the contrary it's a sign of strength. Running the county board and getting to the next level is a gigantic task.

FionnMcCool wrote:

I've come to the conclusion and accepted the fact that Kildare will never ever amount to anything.

I look around at the clubs around me and see the chairman, the administrators, county board delegates that attend these meetings. And then you look at the chairman and the executive and you look at the names kn that list and you can't but think to yourself it's should come as absolutely no surprise to anyone that we are performing as we are.

You look at Naas CBS, Allenwood, Naas, Milltown clubs all successful in Club championships.  You look at our underage and they've never been in a healthier state.

You then look at our Senior set up which is the only team that has any sort of control and power over by the county board in terms of deciding who management is, funding etc and you look at the absolute shit show it is and has been.

We can appoint Jim Gavin with McGeeney and, Mickey Harte and Jim McGuinness as his backroom team and we will still continue to fail because idiots and morons are the decision makers at the top. Any other county would have removed their manager half way through the league.
Any other of county would have demanded answers at monthly county board meetings.  Any other county would have acted . Any other county would have removed Mick Gorman.

We have a long history in Kildare of making bad decisions and being poorly ran at the top. Conleths has been a shit hole since the 80s. We had so many chances and property boom come and go to sort it and failed to do so. We eventually decided to sort it when costs were at the highest it's ever ever been. Farcical.

Larry Tompkins in the 80s.
Niall Buckely 90s
McGeeney 00s

We have a habit of continuously making poor decisions being made by inept people . Similar inept and braindead people post on here about McGeeney not having won anything and he won nothing with Kildare etc.

Every player who played with him, every player who played under him, every pundit , every manager who managed him and manager who came against him has spoken of how mighty a man McGeeney is.
But the good old folk in Kildare know better. Lads with big foreheads and crossed eyes know better, like extras from the hills have eyes sitting the the top table laughing at how quickly they can complete the monthly meeting.

We deserve everything single thing we get. We will never ever amount to nothing as we are a self fulfilling prophecy. Hawkfiled is a rundown ramshackle dump. Conleths will be too in 5 years. We've no standards, no drive, no ambition.  

Just look at the calibre of person and names that voted McGeeney out. One of them is our current Chairman. That will tell you everything you need to know.

We deserve it. All of it.

Fionn you might have a point but unless you ask your club to raise these items then it will never be even heard. Everyone on these forums are viewed as trolls and keyboard warriors.

Liffey Likes wrote:

FionnMcCool wrote:

I've come to the conclusion and accepted the fact that Kildare will never ever amount to anything.

I look around at the clubs around me and see the chairman, the administrators, county board delegates that attend these meetings. And then you look at the chairman and the executive and you look at the names kn that list and you can't but think to yourself it's should come as absolutely no surprise to anyone that we are performing as we are.

You look at Naas CBS, Allenwood, Naas, Milltown clubs all successful in Club championships.  You look at our underage and they've never been in a healthier state.

You then look at our Senior set up which is the only team that has any sort of control and power over by the county board in terms of deciding who management is, funding etc and you look at the absolute shit show it is and has been.

We can appoint Jim Gavin with McGeeney and, Mickey Harte and Jim McGuinness as his backroom team and we will still continue to fail because idiots and morons are the decision makers at the top. Any other county would have removed their manager half way through the league.
Any other of county would have demanded answers at monthly county board meetings.  Any other county would have acted . Any other county would have removed Mick Gorman.

We have a long history in Kildare of making bad decisions and being poorly ran at the top. Conleths has been a shit hole since the 80s. We had so many chances and property boom come and go to sort it and failed to do so. We eventually decided to sort it when costs were at the highest it's ever ever been. Farcical.

Larry Tompkins in the 80s.
Niall Buckely 90s
McGeeney 00s

We have a habit of continuously making poor decisions being made by inept people . Similar inept and braindead people post on here about McGeeney not having won anything and he won nothing with Kildare etc.

Every player who played with him, every player who played under him, every pundit , every manager who managed him and manager who came against him has spoken of how mighty a man McGeeney is.
But the good old folk in Kildare know better. Lads with big foreheads and crossed eyes know better, like extras from the hills have eyes sitting the the top table laughing at how quickly they can complete the monthly meeting.

We deserve everything single thing we get. We will never ever amount to nothing as we are a self fulfilling prophecy. Hawkfiled is a rundown ramshackle dump. Conleths will be too in 5 years. We've no standards, no drive, no ambition.  

Just look at the calibre of person and names that voted McGeeney out. One of them is our current Chairman. That will tell you everything you need to know.

We deserve it. All of it.

Fionn you might have a point but unless you ask your club to raise these items then it will never be even heard. Everyone on these forums are viewed as trolls and keyboard warriors.

I was at my club meeting the night McGeeney was up for discussion. One person spoke and said how it was being voted . It wasn't debated and when I questioned it I was shot down by a number of his buddie in attendnace. That's how we roll in Kildare.

That's why we're a mess.

We deserve everything we get.

FionnMcCool wrote:

Liffey Likes wrote:

FionnMcCool wrote:

I've come to the conclusion and accepted the fact that Kildare will never ever amount to anything.

I look around at the clubs around me and see the chairman, the administrators, county board delegates that attend these meetings. And then you look at the chairman and the executive and you look at the names kn that list and you can't but think to yourself it's should come as absolutely no surprise to anyone that we are performing as we are.

You look at Naas CBS, Allenwood, Naas, Milltown clubs all successful in Club championships.  You look at our underage and they've never been in a healthier state.

You then look at our Senior set up which is the only team that has any sort of control and power over by the county board in terms of deciding who management is, funding etc and you look at the absolute shit show it is and has been.

We can appoint Jim Gavin with McGeeney and, Mickey Harte and Jim McGuinness as his backroom team and we will still continue to fail because idiots and morons are the decision makers at the top. Any other county would have removed their manager half way through the league.
Any other of county would have demanded answers at monthly county board meetings.  Any other county would have acted . Any other county would have removed Mick Gorman.

We have a long history in Kildare of making bad decisions and being poorly ran at the top. Conleths has been a shit hole since the 80s. We had so many chances and property boom come and go to sort it and failed to do so. We eventually decided to sort it when costs were at the highest it's ever ever been. Farcical.

Larry Tompkins in the 80s.
Niall Buckely 90s
McGeeney 00s

We have a habit of continuously making poor decisions being made by inept people . Similar inept and braindead people post on here about McGeeney not having won anything and he won nothing with Kildare etc.

Every player who played with him, every player who played under him, every pundit , every manager who managed him and manager who came against him has spoken of how mighty a man McGeeney is.
But the good old folk in Kildare know better. Lads with big foreheads and crossed eyes know better, like extras from the hills have eyes sitting the the top table laughing at how quickly they can complete the monthly meeting.

We deserve everything single thing we get. We will never ever amount to nothing as we are a self fulfilling prophecy. Hawkfiled is a rundown ramshackle dump. Conleths will be too in 5 years. We've no standards, no drive, no ambition.  

Just look at the calibre of person and names that voted McGeeney out. One of them is our current Chairman. That will tell you everything you need to know.

We deserve it. All of it.

Fionn you might have a point but unless you ask your club to raise these items then it will never be even heard. Everyone on these forums are viewed as trolls and keyboard warriors.

I was at my club meeting the night McGeeney was up for discussion. One person spoke and said how it was being voted . It wasn't debated and when I questioned it I was shot down by a number of his buddie in attendnace. That's how we roll in Kildare.

That's why we're a mess.

We deserve everything we get.

It wasn't just you Fionn. The players were very strong in their opinion that he should stay. They considered going on strike after the vote, but the horse had bolted at that stage. Looking back on it now, it really was a poisoned chalice for Jason Ryan.

Kildare-Tom wrote:

Lads Geezer is gone from Kildare nearly 11yrs. He is an outstanding manager & players love him but unfortunately you need to have clubs on your side as a county manager but unfortunately Geezer didn't due to him trying to stop lads playing Club Championship. He didn't care about Clubs in Kildare & only for these clubs we wouldn't have county players. Delighted He won today but we really need to stop talking about him.

Nonsense, more clubs that were affected by having county players voted for him to stay on than against. I know my own club supported him and we would have really missed our 2 county players during the leagues but still would have been 100% behinfd him. He came back and was guest of honour at our centenary dinner dance a few years later and was the best choice possible.

Columbo wrote:

Kildare-Tom wrote:

Lads Geezer is gone from Kildare nearly 11yrs. He is an outstanding manager & players love him but unfortunately you need to have clubs on your side as a county manager but unfortunately Geezer didn't due to him trying to stop lads playing Club Championship. He didn't care about Clubs in Kildare & only for these clubs we wouldn't have county players. Delighted He won today but we really need to stop talking about him.

Nonsense, more clubs that were affected by having county players voted for him to stay on than against. I know my own club supported him and we would have really missed our 2 county players during the leagues but still would have been 100% behinfd him. He came back and was guest of honour at our centenary dinner dance a few years later and was the best choice possible.

Its the same on here the shite myself, Lillle Lad, Liffey Likes, Southern Gael, Fionn Mc Cool and a few others are given for even suggesting McGeeney. Threads set up here but don't mention McGeeney, McGeeney not coming back get over it, we can't afford McGeeney.

Same lads voted against him which is why the current chairman's credibility goes out the window picking a new manager.
If McGeeney by the end of this season for whatever reason became available.As I said months Kildare should be moving hell bent to get him. Even as mentor/coach role if he wanted to take a step back from a senior capacity.
As I also said months ago if he does become available and he goes to any other county after saying he would come back to Kildare. I will be sick.
Which is why its sicking that the current chair is involved in the new manager process.

If Flanagan has McGeeney in his backroom team for example would he not be given the job?

For me the discussion isn't about McGeeney.

McGeeney has highlighted how braindead large large sections in Kildare GAA are.

We are the orchestrators of our own demise and downfall. You look at Armagh and Galway in the All Ireland final. Donegal in the semi final. Roscommon and Louth also. All teams superbly organised, Fit. Game plan, structured and well set up. That's why they are there.
Armagh have not won any title of any note since 2009 winning Minor Ulster and All Ireland . Not an underage Ulster in 15 years. They have 2/3 players from that squad still involved.  The rest have never ever won anything at any level. They are in an All Ireland final.
Because they are well coached, organised, well drilled and have hunger instilled in them.

Jack O'C had us going very well. Back in Div.1 and well organised.  He departed and things went to absolute shit with the appointment of Glen Ryan. It could not have gone any worse. That is on Mick Gorman.

He is now in charge of the next appointment. No one is batting and eyelid or questioning this.

Just to say. McGeeney isn't coming back.
I think win or lose he stays with Armagh now with how this year has went. They are back in Div.1 also.

My rants aren't about wanting McGeeney back.
They are about how the braindead morons who voted him out are still stinking the halls in Hawkfield and making decisions in Kildare GAA.

I want them fucking cunts gone more than I want McGeeney back. McGeeney could come back next year but it's a sticking plaster on a brain hemorrhage.

Sweeping and wholesale change is needed in Kildare GAA. I actually couldn't care less about our Senior Manager now. Change, real change is needed in the corridors of Hawkfield. We accept and bask in mediocrity, because being the best means being bold and taking risks and asking questions and striving to be better.

I take a look around who was on the sideline with the Senior team this year and all the clingers on and I genuinely laugh it's that embarrassing.  We played Louth in Croke Park and they emerged from the tunnel on the Cusak Stand side and most of them couldn't run across pitch after half time to the dugouts. Embarrassing idiots.

But sure aren't they volunteers giving their time freely.
They can't be criticised or called out by anyone

FionnMcCool wrote:

Just to say. McGeeney isn't coming back.
I think win or lose he stays with Armagh now with how this year has went. They are back in Div.1 also.

My rants aren't about wanting McGeeney back.
They are about how the braindead morons who voted him out are still stinking the halls in Hawkfield and making decisions in Kildare GAA.

I want them fucking cunts gone more than I want McGeeney back. McGeeney could come back next year but it's a sticking plaster on a brain hemorrhage.

Sweeping and wholesale change is needed in Kildare GAA. I actually couldn't care less about our Senior Manager now. Change, real change is needed in the corridors of Hawkfield. We accept and bask in mediocrity, because being the best means being bold and taking risks and asking questions and striving to be better.

I take a look around who was on the sideline with the Senior team this year and all the clingers on and I genuinely laugh it's that embarrassing.  We played Louth in Croke Park and they emerged from the tunnel on the Cusak Stand side and most of them couldn't run across pitch after half time to the dugouts. Embarrassing idiots.

But sure aren't they volunteers giving their time freely.  
They can't be criticised or called out by anyone

Hopefully Mac Lochlainn would go in for chairman.

McGeeney pissing off the clubs regarding access to county players was the narrative that was bandied about at the time but when you look at the list of clubs who voted against him it doesn't really hold water. Athgarvan, Castlemitchell, Grange, Caragh, Monasterevin, Kildangan, Raheens and Rathcoffey hadn't a player anywhere near the county panel in 2013 or for the previous few years.

Unfortunately people of the calibre of Andrew Mc don't go for these positions in Kildare. You end up surrounded by absolute morons. The whole place needs a clear out. It would take a military style orchestrated coup to clean the shit out of the place.

Majority are not there for the betterment of Kildare GAA.

bloodsub wrote:

McGeeney pissing off the clubs regarding access to county players was the narrative that was bandied about at the time but when you look at the list of clubs who voted against him it doesn't really hold water. Athgarvan, Castlemitchell, Grange, Caragh, Monasterevin, Kildangan, Raheens and Rathcoffey hadn't a player anywhere near the county panel in 2013 or for the previous few years.

There's a bellend from Athy who actively went around some of the clubs above "canvassing" for the want of a better word to remove McGeeney.

Bellend is a mild word I'd use , I'd prefer not to get sued or arrested.

Three former kildare managers involved this weekend .....but they were all to blame for Kildare not winning anything

FionnMcCool wrote:

bloodsub wrote:

McGeeney pissing off the clubs regarding access to county players was the narrative that was bandied about at the time but when you look at the list of clubs who voted against him it doesn't really hold water. Athgarvan, Castlemitchell, Grange, Caragh, Monasterevin, Kildangan, Raheens and Rathcoffey hadn't a player anywhere near the county panel in 2013 or for the previous few years.

There's a bellend from Athy who actively went around some of the clubs above "canvassing" for the want of a better word to remove McGeeney.

Bellend is a mild word I'd use , I'd prefer not to get sued or arrested.

Was it the lad that was also the hurling representative? Between Athy and Larries they almost single handily got rid of McGeeney. There is another Athy lad that was asked during the week if he will go for the chairman's job. He will. He is a huge fan of himself and might actually get it.

Ontheterrace wrote:

Three former kildare managers involved this weekend .....but they were all to blame for Kildare not winning anything

Were there people with burning torches when Cian O'Neill got the chop? No. A brilliant coach but just not a great manager. Jack O'Connor and his horrible tactics were at fault for Kerry losing yesterday.

RiseAgainKildare wrote:

FionnMcCool wrote:

bloodsub wrote:

McGeeney pissing off the clubs regarding access to county players was the narrative that was bandied about at the time but when you look at the list of clubs who voted against him it doesn't really hold water. Athgarvan, Castlemitchell, Grange, Caragh, Monasterevin, Kildangan, Raheens and Rathcoffey hadn't a player anywhere near the county panel in 2013 or for the previous few years.

There's a bellend from Athy who actively went around some of the clubs above "canvassing" for the want of a better word to remove McGeeney.

Bellend is a mild word I'd use , I'd prefer not to get sued or arrested.

Was it the lad that was also the hurling representative? Between Athy and Larries they almost single handily got rid of McGeeney. There is another Athy lad that was asked during the week if he will go for the chairman's job. He will. He is a huge fan of himself and might actually get it.

Definitely not the hurling man, no.

Flano with Cian O’Neill as a coach? Why shouldn’t we try it? Rochford went back to mayo as a coach.

There could be a changing of the guard in Galway in the coming weeks. We won’t get a better coach than O’Neill. It’s also a practically new team from the one he managed.

FionnMcCool wrote:

RiseAgainKildare wrote:

FionnMcCool wrote:

bloodsub wrote:

McGeeney pissing off the clubs regarding access to county players was the narrative that was bandied about at the time but when you look at the list of clubs who voted against him it doesn't really hold water. Athgarvan, Castlemitchell, Grange, Caragh, Monasterevin, Kildangan, Raheens and Rathcoffey hadn't a player anywhere near the county panel in 2013 or for the previous few years.

There's a bellend from Athy who actively went around some of the clubs above "canvassing" for the want of a better word to remove McGeeney.

Bellend is a mild word I'd use , I'd prefer not to get sued or arrested.

Was it the lad that was also the hurling representative? Between Athy and Larries they almost single handily got rid of McGeeney. There is another Athy lad that was asked during the week if he will go for the chairman's job. He will. He is a huge fan of himself and might actually get it.

Definitely not the hurling man, no.

The same character ran for central council delegate a few years ago and got a very small vote. He's not as popular as his ego tells him he is.

Badger85 wrote:

Flano with Cian O’Neill as a coach? Why shouldn’t we try it? Rochford went back to mayo as a coach.

There could be a changing of the guard in Galway in the coming weeks. We won’t get a better coach than O’Neill. It’s also a practically new team from the one he managed.

You’d wonder how it was left with O’Neill with the county board. Think at the time everyone knew his race was ran when he was a manger and there was a few good days. Showing again he’s obviously one of the top coaches around but there’s often a feeling there’s no drive to get him back involved ( or would he bother) in some aspect, let people like him build and run a coaching plan for the county - he clearly knows what it takes to be a top team

Lads we are being delusional if we think any of the managers at the top table will come to us it wud be like asking pep to give up the premiership for a team in the 2nd division.its probably flanno with the best of what managers are left is the best we can do