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Cilldara_2000
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:06 pm

Caprea wrote:
Jesus lads, any teams from the 90s wouldn’t hold a candle to the teams of today. Sports science has transformed the game, micko used to insist his players ate frys on the day of games ffs.

Look at how much teams score these days compared to the scores kildare put up in 98 and that’s with far more bodies in defence.

Watch how often players turn over the ball in the 90s under no pressure.

If you want to believe joe brollys misty eyed view that his era was the best than it’s up to you but you’d be barking up the wrong tree.

That's irrelevant and very arguable. Improvements in sports science and fitness are not indications that the game have improved. I don't recall a great deal of games back then involving the massed blanket defence with 15 men behind the ball nor too many teams playing keep ball around their own 45 like Dublin do now. There were also far fewer hammerings. And championship meant something before the AI semi finals.

And having 60k people watching Kildare used to be nice too!

But anyway, the underlying point is that the 1998 team won two Leinsters. As 365 said, the current group have only shown potential at senior level so far. When they have some medals we can reassess their place in history.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:34 am

The way I look at it is if the 1998 - 2000 team trained like today's team and had the science to compliment, then in my view they win 9 out of 10 games between the two. Physically the 98 team would dominate and their hard edge and will to win would overwhelm today's team.

There are signs that the current squad may be developing that hard edge but they are not a patch on the likes of Ryan, Rainbow, Lacey, McCreery and Buckley


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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:00 am

If CON was in newbridge today he'd surely have to be looking at the towers keeper. Made a couple of great saves today which kept them in the game
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:25 am

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If CON was in newbridge today he'd surely have to be looking at the towers keeper. Made a couple of great saves today which kept them in the game

James Robinson. Played one O'Byrne Cup match for Jason Ryan back in 2015. Had a good game alright.

I presume the Mikey Quinn who played in goal for Eadestown is Niall Quinn's lad who declared for Dubs rather than us? Went off injured after conceding three or four goals.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:45 am

The point about their bloody mindedness is well made, but current team can kick points that the great 97-2000 team wouldn't even attempt
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:49 am

The 98-00 team played against and stopped some of the greatest forwards ever to play the game being highly influential against us (Giles, Geraghty, Dowd, Maurice Fitz, Mike Frank Russell) the current team probably does score more and probably hits a higher percentage of scores to shots taken, not one of the current defenders or goalkeeper would make 98-00 side and neither of the midfielders would either.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:19 am

Very true & very telling Top Cat
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:45 pm

topcat wrote:
The 98-00 team played against and stopped some of the greatest forwards ever to play the game being highly influential against us (Giles, Geraghty, Dowd, Maurice Fitz, Mike Frank Russell) the current team probably does score more and probably hits a higher percentage of scores to shots taken, not one of the current defenders or goalkeeper would make 98-00 side and neither of the midfielders would either.

Agree TC.. throw in Eddie Mac, Lynch, Kerrigan and Johnny Mac aswell.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:33 pm

If we are watching players then watch defenders in particular. Last year's championship revealed Flynn and Murray so there could be someone else who could step up. Our defense and certainly our full back line is still short of options.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:54 am

Lads I've said it here before over the last few years Ballykelly have one of the best forwards in the county. Was told he was to small at minor and then wouldnt go for the u21s 2 years ago, I think he's 23 now.. I believe he scored 3-12 out of his clubs total of 4-17 in lastnight Junior championship . OK you'll probably say it only junior but the scores still have to be scored. JD never played minor or 21 and look how he turned out. . He worth keeping an eye on it think..
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:26 am

Whos that?
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:37 am

Young Callaghan from Naas played well at the weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:57 pm

Heard the kilcock keeper put on a superhuman display of shotstopping yesterday.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:14 am

Nash of Monasterevin must cert for Kildare senior Panel next year
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:14 pm

Archibald of Celbridge was v good last night
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:09 am

Not many new Names cropping up Folks.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:49 am

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Not many new Names cropping up Folks.

Is it unfair to say the entire forum is very focused on the county matters. Can’t say I’ve ever read too many insights into the club game within the posts put up on this forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:22 pm

Caprea wrote:
SeamusMurphy wrote:
Not many new Names cropping up Folks.

Is it unfair to say the entire forum is very focused on the county matters. Can’t say I’ve ever read too many insights into the club game within the posts put up on this forum.

I agree 100%.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:06 pm

I suppose it's the county that we all have in common and we don't have much interest in how other clubs are doing
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:29 pm

lillyboy wrote:
I suppose it's the county that we all have in common and we don't have much interest in how other clubs are doing

Fair point, and I suppose as clubs exit the championship there will be less interest overall.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:11 am

Think Nash from Monasterevin is worth a look. Influential player for the Kildare U20 side and has carried that form into the latter end of the club championship too
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:50 pm

This year we have the luxury of having an AI winning U20 squad to add to the senior squad. There won't be the same pressure to unearth new players from the club championship like in recent years. If we could find one like Flynn or Murray like we did last year that would be a bonus.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:53 pm

Liam Mcgoveran worth a look judging on past couple of years club.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:05 am

lilysavage wrote:
Liam Mcgoveran worth a look judging on past couple of years club.

Absolutely.. and left footed, a rare Comodity in Kildare football.
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PostSubject: Re: Player Watch 2019   Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:27 am

Wayne Fitzpatrick yesterday vs kevins frees also left footed gave an exibition.
His last free in normal time into the wind was stunning....
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