Leinster Championship 2024

Kildare98 wrote:

Tailteann Cup draw - mouthwatering ties against Leitrim, Longford, Waterford.

We are slightly behind others in prep as Glenn has freely admitted he has no plan. Plus we have no fitness or tactics so I would give each of those teams every chance of beating us. Waterford in particular would be a chronic humiliation, but we are genuinely playing at London / New York level currently.

Glen has given them this week off. After losing 9 of their last 11 games. Relegation to Div.3 and Relegation to Tailteann Cup.
We're playing Longford on 11th/12th May which is less than 2 weeks away and they've a week off.

How in the name of fucking jasus is this lad still our manager.

Lads, whatever else you say about them, this is genuinely the unfittest Kildare team I’ve ever seen.

At key points during last weekend’s game, they were absolutely flayed, no energy or spark at all. It was genuinely shocking.

S&C (sweets & candy?) clearly not up to it along with Nally.

FionnMcCool wrote:

Kildare98 wrote:

Tailteann Cup draw - mouthwatering ties against Leitrim, Longford, Waterford.

We are slightly behind others in prep as Glenn has freely admitted he has no plan. Plus we have no fitness or tactics so I would give each of those teams every chance of beating us. Waterford in particular would be a chronic humiliation, but we are genuinely playing at London / New York level currently.

Glen has given them this week off. After losing 9 of their last 11 games. Relegation to Div.3 and Relegation to Tailteann Cup.
We're playing Longford on 11th/12th May which is less than 2 weeks away and they've a week off.

How in the name of fucking jasus is this lad still our manager.

Have to agree there is no sense to that when they are looking so unfit.

He definitely should have had the wisdom to not say it at all!!

A week and one match with their clubs might be no harm. Blast off some cobwebs and then full reset.

Like 1 game away from camp will hardly cause much disruption...

I don’t agree with it but our lads will get better training + s & c. Some will even play with a better quality of player at their club.

How he came out and said he didn’t understand where the performances came from despite only winning 1 games since the O’Byrne cup is fucking hilarious.

FionnMcCool wrote:

Kildare98 wrote:

Tailteann Cup draw - mouthwatering ties against Leitrim, Longford, Waterford.

We are slightly behind others in prep as Glenn has freely admitted he has no plan. Plus we have no fitness or tactics so I would give each of those teams every chance of beating us. Waterford in particular would be a chronic humiliation, but we are genuinely playing at London / New York level currently.

Glen has given them this week off. After losing 9 of their last 11 games. Relegation to Div.3 and Relegation to Tailteann Cup.
We're playing Longford on 11th/12th May which is less than 2 weeks away and they've a week off.

How in the name of fucking jasus is this lad still our manager.

He also said in the same interview he didn't have a plan for (Tailteann)

I'd say it's more likely a week on the piss in Naas for Punchestown rather than a week back training with their clubs.

Thelillywhites wrote:

He also said in the same interview he didn't have a plan for (Tailteann)

What he said is:'To be honest I didn’t have a plan in place for this.'
Most fair people would read this as him saying he planned to win last Sunday rather than facing into the Tailteann cup.  Your interpretation is twisting things.
If he'd said he had a plan, he'd be accused  of having given up on the Leinster championship before the match.

really_unofficial_kildare wrote:

Said it before but any player that leaves the panel of his own accord should never wear the Kildare jersey again. The Tailteann Cup isn't beneath us. It's our level this year.

Don't get you logic here at all, I'm surprised more on the fringes haven't walked. Everyone knows glen will play the same old unreliable in the tailtenn cup and not try a young lad at all. Why would anyone stay near this shit show.

newornowhere wrote:

really_unofficial_kildare wrote:

Said it before but any player that leaves the panel of his own accord should never wear the Kildare jersey again. The Tailteann Cup isn't beneath us. It's our level this year.

Don't get you logic here at all, I'm surprised more on the fringes haven't walked. Everyone knows glen will play the same old unreliable in the tailtenn cup and not try a young lad at all. Why would anyone stay near this shit show.

I know Glen is really unapproachable but if I were on the panel and not getting a sniff of game time id be asking him why for a start. The young lads need to stick with it. The end is in sight. I seriously can't see Glenn Ryan anywhere near the thing next year. Along with about 5 or 6 of the players.

When new manager comes in this year, he wont give 2 hoots if a lad went to Boston or if he picked splinters out of his hole in the dugout in Dungarvan watching same lads get their 150th games.
It will be a new slate, like all new regimes.

lilysavage wrote:

When new manager comes in this year, he wont give 2 hoots if a lad went to Boston or if he picked splinters out of his hole in the dugout in Dungarvan watching same lads get their 150th games.
It will be a new slate, like all new regimes.

Yeah but if things don't improve then supporters will remember exactly who fucked off when we were on the bones of our arse. Every single one of those lads including management have gotten us where we are. They need to see it out now.

MickosMen wrote:

lilysavage wrote:

When new manager comes in this year, he wont give 2 hoots if a lad went to Boston or if he picked splinters out of his hole in the dugout in Dungarvan watching same lads get their 150th games.
It will be a new slate, like all new regimes.

Yeah but if things don't improve then supporters will remember exactly who fucked off when we were on the bones of our arse. Every single one of those lads including management have gotten us where we are. They need to see it out now.

 
I think we're past that stage now. If you dont change it up for these games, when ?

lilysavage wrote:

MickosMen wrote:

lilysavage wrote:

When new manager comes in this year, he wont give 2 hoots if a lad went to Boston or if he picked splinters out of his hole in the dugout in Dungarvan watching same lads get their 150th games.
It will be a new slate, like all new regimes.

Yeah but if things don't improve then supporters will remember exactly who fucked off when we were on the bones of our arse. Every single one of those lads including management have gotten us where we are. They need to see it out now.

 
I think we're past that stage now. If you dont change it up for these games, when ?

That won't happen though. We all know it. There should have been a change in management after year 2. Someone should have shown leadership and made a change in management during the league this year when it was clearly obvious things were going backwards and fast.

We are going to limp through the Tailteann without any change whatsoever. Listen to Glenn Ryans silly interviews. Look at players failing to kick the ball over the bar from 20 meters and failing to execute 5 meter hand passes.

Zero leadership at all levels.

If the same team is selected for these games, I will be tuning out until next year.

lilysavage wrote:

If the same team is selected for these games, I will be tuning out until next year.

Not sure how you are still tuned in tbh, the Cavan game finished me!

lilysavage wrote:

If the same team is selected for these games, I will be tuning out until next year.

Why do you think it will change now? Donnellan and O Grady have been the worst players all year and they’re the only players to start every game.

Sargent is a million miles off county standard and has been for the best part of 3 years, he was dropped for one match and then put straight back in only to be as far off the pace as ever.

Plenty of options in the panel as well. The defenders and goalkeepers on the bench against Louth were all better than the ones that were starting.

Ontheterrace wrote:

Thelillywhites wrote:

He also said in the same interview he didn't have a plan for (Tailteann)

What he said is:'To be honest I didn’t have a plan in place for this.'
Most fair people would read this as him saying he planned to win last Sunday rather than facing into the Tailteann cup.  Your interpretation is twisting things.
If he'd said he had a plan, he'd be accused  of having given up on the Leinster championship before the match.

Fairpoint but let's be honest does it look like he could come up with a structured plan all year?
No just like there will be no structure to the play in the Tailteann.

lilysavage wrote:

When new manager comes in this year, he wont give 2 hoots if a lad went to Boston or if he picked splinters out of his hole in the dugout in Dungarvan watching same lads get their 150th games.
It will be a new slate, like all new regimes.

Current manager didn't give 2 hoots when some lads went to Australia this year

really_unofficial_kildare wrote:

If anyone is buying the Kildare Nationalist today "The Supporter" column is well worth a read. It will probably be online later so I'll post the link. Pulls no punches.

Here is a the supporter article you mentioned:
https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2024/05/02/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-failure-if-you-give-your-all-the-supporter-column/

He raises mostly the same issues as people here on the forum but it's fairly depressing reading how we are not fulfilling close to our potential in so many areas.

OutTheGap wrote:

really_unofficial_kildare wrote:

If anyone is buying the Kildare Nationalist today "The Supporter" column is well worth a read. It will probably be online later so I'll post the link. Pulls no punches.

Here is a the supporter article you mentioned:
https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2024/05/02/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-failure-if-you-give-your-all-the-supporter-column/

He raises mostly the same issues as people here on the forum but it's fairly depressing reading how we are not fulfilling close to our potential in so many areas.

The main issue I have with that suggestion is we have always been an unsuccessful county. Apart from the odd few years. Our current demise whilst steep and alarming is probably more in tune with the majority of our past.

You can certainly see potential there but throughout the years we have never really exploited it for pro-longed periods. There is a massive divide in Kildare GAA. I think that something that isn't spoken about enough.

MickosMen wrote:

OutTheGap wrote:

really_unofficial_kildare wrote:

If anyone is buying the Kildare Nationalist today "The Supporter" column is well worth a read. It will probably be online later so I'll post the link. Pulls no punches.

Here is a the supporter article you mentioned:
https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2024/05/02/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-failure-if-you-give-your-all-the-supporter-column/

He raises mostly the same issues as people here on the forum but it's fairly depressing reading how we are not fulfilling close to our potential in so many areas.

The main issue I have with that suggestion is we have always been an unsuccessful county. Apart from the odd few years. Our current demise whilst steep and alarming is probably more in tune with the majority of our past.

You can certainly see potential there but throughout the years we have never really exploited it for pro-longed periods. There is a massive divide in Kildare GAA. I think that something that isn't spoken about enough.

What is the divide?

OutTheGap wrote:

really_unofficial_kildare wrote:

If anyone is buying the Kildare Nationalist today "The Supporter" column is well worth a read. It will probably be online later so I'll post the link. Pulls no punches.

Here is a the supporter article you mentioned:
https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2024/05/02/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-failure-if-you-give-your-all-the-supporter-column/

He raises mostly the same issues as people here on the forum but it's fairly depressing reading how we are not fulfilling close to our potential in so many areas.

Wow, that is an excellent article...one of the best i've read in a long time. Is that Pat Costelloe that does work for KFM on match days, and reports on new shops opening and the likes ? I always like his reporting and he comes across as a lovely man. Kudos to him, that article hits the spot...food for thought !

Badger85 wrote:

MickosMen wrote:

OutTheGap wrote:

really_unofficial_kildare wrote:

If anyone is buying the Kildare Nationalist today "The Supporter" column is well worth a read. It will probably be online later so I'll post the link. Pulls no punches.

Here is a the supporter article you mentioned:
https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2024/05/02/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-failure-if-you-give-your-all-the-supporter-column/

He raises mostly the same issues as people here on the forum but it's fairly depressing reading how we are not fulfilling close to our potential in so many areas.

The main issue I have with that suggestion is we have always been an unsuccessful county. Apart from the odd few years. Our current demise whilst steep and alarming is probably more in tune with the majority of our past.

You can certainly see potential there but throughout the years we have never really exploited it for pro-longed periods. There is a massive divide in Kildare GAA. I think that something that isn't spoken about enough.

What is the divide?

Clane/Sallins. The CB will just about tolerate Naas. They prefer Athy ploughmen.

Kildare football stuck in the stone age