Intermediate Championship Objection

only way i see mess not happing again PRO should kept the score of game when match is over they go to ref and they sign the refeere report.

Why would it be anything to do with the club pro? As Ive saidf before the referee's are the ONLY ones in this association who get paid for every match they ref. Anybody getting paid to do a job should at least be able to fulfill some basic requirements, counting being one of them.

Dress it up what way you like, hide behind flawed rule books and bogus countyboard officials. The only thing thats ever needed in any association is common sense. The GAA are the only association I know who tells officials not to use common sense.

Enough said....

Hear through the grapevine we have a playofff on the way!!!

So when is this playoff going to take place?!?

I suggested this about 10 days ago on here, finally common sense prevails.

Once the play off has been agreed by both clubs and the CB, there surely should be no reason for a delay - ideally play off with M'evin and Eadestown on thurs 22nd, Qtr final maybe tues 27th Sept and the semi's on sun 02nd October? While this is a tough time schedule on M'evin, Eadestown and Kill, it would potentially save a week and give the ultimate winners of the Intermediate c'ship a crack at Leinster.

The sooner the play off fixture is set, the better.

Lads jumping ahead there, firstly no play-off has been formally agreed or ratified, i believe Monasterevan's appeal is to be in with the DRA yesterday/today and if a play off was agreed i'd say it would have to be voted on by the county board and other clubs such as Kill, Ballyteague etc. would have to have a period of objection before a play-off could happen......... can't see a play-off for at least another week if it happens at all???

Its Typical an Irish solution to a problem , hold things up for weeks blame one and other for the mess , then someone sees the light (after everyone on here stated the obvious about a playoff) then everyone kisses and makes up and throws the rule book out the window.
i hope everyone learns from this mess
CB sometimes common sense is better than a rule book
in my opinion mr fennin never gives mr coyle a game to ref again for his stubborness
oh and i cant see anyone in the inter club championship this year ...... playoff 1st october , then the following week the winners of playoff v kill , following week semi finals then 2 weeks to final so your looking at the final on 29/ 30th october

ccm1 wrote:

Its Typical an Irish solution to a problem , hold things up for weeks blame one and other for the mess , then someone sees the light (after everyone on here stated the obvious about a playoff) then everyone kisses and makes up and throws the rule book out the window.
i hope everyone learns from this mess
CB sometimes common sense is better than a rule book
in my opinion mr fennin never gives mr coyle a game to ref again for his stubborness
oh and i cant see anyone in the inter club championship this year ...... playoff 1st october , then the following week the winners of playoff v kill , following week semi finals then 2 weeks to final so your looking at the final on 29/ 30th october

Kildare clubs got a bye in Leinster in the intermediate and arent due to play until first wkend in november

cmm1 you are right about the solution, but common sense has nothing to do with it. If a playoff is agreed by the clubs involved it will require a vote to go ahead, my understanding of the rules is that standing orders would have to be suspended for a vote to take place, this can only happen at a county board meeting or a meeting convened for that purpose. If ratified it then and only then becomes an official fixture. County officer or boards can only bypass the refs report if all the clubs in the county agree, if ANY club objects it reverts back to the contents off the report. Its a very round about way of getting over the problem but its designed that way to make objections as difficult as possible, otherwise you'd have them on a more regular basis.

Give respect, Get respect

From the Official Website

With regard to the Intermediate Football Championship a proposal was made by Eadestown GAA to play Monasterevin in a play off game to determine the 8th place in the competition.This proposal was discussed at a meeting of the Kildare CCC on Tuesday 20th September where it was decided to accept the proposal. The CCC acknowledge the sporting gesture from Eadestown which allows the competition progress forthwith.

It was also decided that the Eadestown v Monasterevin game to determine the 8th place will be fixed for Sunday 2nd October @ 2pm at Raheens with Extra time 2 x 10 mins to be played if necessary.

fionnmccool wrote:

To Eadestown:
Would Eadestown be willing to offer a play off type game to Monasterevin? I'm sure Eadestown would not like to be going through to the 1/4 final in this fashion.

To Monasterevin:
If a play off type game was offered by Eadestown, would Monasterevin be willing to accept this or would they still go ahead with their complaint to the Leinster Council.

This is the best solution to all of this in my opinion. This is a footballing matter, lets settle it on the football field. Human error was behind it, i'm sure the referee in question would like to see it resolved this way also.

I suggested this almost 2 weeks ago now. Its the fairest avenue for al parties - referee and 2 teams.

John McMahon, Kathy O'Neill, The CCC if you need any help or advice you know where to find me.

Whats the odds on Des Coyle Reffing the Playoff????????

ccm1 wrote:

Whats the odds on Des Coyle Reffing the Playoff????????

He'd need to come out looking like this I would imagine.

Am geniunely glad to hear common sense prevailed but am raging about the fixture date of 02nd October. It means semi final earliest possible date is over 3 weeks away and it should have been this weekend!! The reason being that M'evin have a stag and Eadestown have a wedding this weekend! Given the delay, could this not be played mid week to make up some ground FFS?

Booked a holiday for after the 'planned' c'ship final date - down the f**king swanny now. Sickened

Its a sad state of affairs but if it went to the DRA as Monasterevin were doing it could take a month. The club player is getting screwed again.

fionnmccool wrote:

I suggested this almost 2 weeks ago now. Its the fairest avenue for al parties - referee and 2 teams.

John McMahon, Kathy O'Neill, The CCC if you need any help or advice you know where to find me.

Sorry to burst your bubble Fionn but I actually suggested it 2 pages earlier than you did on this thread.

I never seen that Fear An Geata. We can set up a consultancy agency so....

Yip i know we all said it 2-3 weeks ago however i would say the neither Eadestown or the County Board would go for it then, it is a shame that Monasterevan had to go to the extent they had to get it resolved, think a lot of people taught they would just drop it and from what i hear they were going all the way and had the finances to back it.......... remember they had Paul Bealin managing them a few years ago so must have some good backing!!!!!

Does anyone else think that by awarding a playoff game to be played that it could open up a huge can of warms? The next game we have a bad decision in can the club look for a playoff to be played???

Thats correct however if you read the statement on the website the county board were stating that it was fair play and goodwill from Eadestown to offer the play-off.
I rekon the wording of that statement was well advised and showed no decision or fault by the official or the county board but threw it back at the clubs.... therefore i would say that if anything does happen in the future it will be pointed out that Eadestown offered the play-off..........God only knows what deals were being done behind the scenes here.............

Very good point there micky. I didn't pick up on that but when I read it back it seems very clear that the CB are hedging for the future. They are allowing Eadestown and Monasterevin "sort it out themselves" without appearing to take any responsibility themselves. Ok it clears up this situation and both clubs seem happy enough but the CB, and more importantly the system and rules under which they govern, have been shown up to be poor, ambiguous, laborious and unjust. This could happen again tomorrow

"God only knows what deals were being done behind the scenes here............."

Dont think there would be any deals or under the table offers as you suggest. I would assume both clubs just want it to be played and to move on. Why does everything need to be seen as a conspiricy???

Emmet bolton Kildare captain next year.. Haha

I'm with you on that botch. There are always some people looking for an angle, sometimes shit happens just as it appears and there are no hidden meanings or agendas. I'm sure Eadestown want it over just as much as Monasterevin, Kill and all others involved and thats reason enough

Interesting to here that due to a stag and a wedding that the match can't be played any sooner. Hope that no other teams have such issues otherwise an interesting precedent has been set!!!