Kildare v Donegal

How could it all go so badly wrong in less than 2 years. In 2017 we wrapped up promotion from this division with a game to spare, hammered Laois and Meath and played some great football against Dublin, albeit without ever looking like winning. Like many others I left croke park that day thinking we were on the verge of something really good.
However it went downhill almost immediately with a no show against Armagh and the shambles of last year with the exception of Mayo and Fermanagh.
It does look like those where the 2 games where the manager and players were on the
same page but it has unravelled again.
The manager should go but how many players should join him?
Scary to think what Dublin could do to us if we meet again.

Playing players out of position continuously is a joke. Paddy brophy is not a half forward, keith cribbin is not a forward full stop.
How many times does kevin feely need to be tried at full forward to know that he's not a full forward.
Defenders can't tackle without fouling.
12 points down in 2nd half, playing with a gale and all 14 players in our half yet in 1st half against the wind we had 4 or 5 in forwards.
Braindead management and players not far behind.

Complete bullshit from CON on kfm as per ....

No Hard Questions put to Him, More kfm Bullshite

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I’d expect a number of that panel to be gone travelling before the Wicklow game. The atmosphere must be toxic in the camp.

Apart from anything else, it looks as if we’re lacking in basic fitness/conditioning considering the way we fade in games or were unable to compete with Donegal today. This was the one area I thought we’d excel given Cian O’Neill’s background. It’s hard to believe the players wouldn’t “empty the tank” if they had the hard training done.

To put in a performance like that after 3 and a half years under Cian O’Neill has to mean his days are numbered. Maybe not all his fault but we need someone who can get the best out of the players.

Since the 2017 Leinster final and excluding the O’Byrne cup we’ve won 7 games... 7..... that includes Fermanagh (who’ve now beaten us), Longford, Clare and Tipperary....

Listening to the game today it didn’t sound good. There should of been a change after last year I don’t blame the players because after Newbridge or nowhere they had to stand up they didn’t need management to help them up for that game. We lost the 3 games in the super 8 after losing all the league games that’s not good. In the last couple of years we have changed our selectors trainers etc is O Neill some sort of dictator and doesn’t take on board what his other management say because as other lads are saying we are doing the same mistakes game after game same players every game to me it’s not a happy camp.

Is he gone yet?

When O'Neill goes there won't be enough examination of those who helped get him the sack. EVERYONE in there needs to have a look at themselves.
For years here people questioned Keith Cribbin, but he is always one who dies with his boots on for club AND county. How many more will do that in April?
They need to show what they can do in the SFC, IFC or JFC, show that there is something wrong within the camp they can still play serious football when freed from it.
But many many won't and they will go back, play the year out and then come back in next year under a new man who will get stick if it doesn't go to plan again.

The month of the club can't come quick enough!

He spoke on KFM of reviewing the match and addreasing the issues and preparing the team for 7 weeks time so he's not planning on going anywhere, dear Jesus this will only get more embarrassing

The problem is that the CB won't appoint Glen and they passed over Davy Burke. They have no where to turn. He'll be here for the rest of the year.

I feel sorry for the poor Soul's who made that journey.. which thankfully I didn't.
Again I say, something has to change, and soon.

Davy and Glen are the obvious choices but there is a better chance of Theresa May getting the job than them. Rex is right, he will be very difficult to shift. Ominous times I fear as Meath steam ahead of us.

Roscommon, Cavan, Fermanagh, Armagh, Clare, Laois and either Louth or Westmeath in division 2 next year.

Not one single decent away trip for sesh there. Really need to focus on getting back to division 1 next year.

Looking at the Sunday Game,and the way Teams no better than us are playing, you be depressed. We are gone so back,it not funny. And our C.B will sit on there Hands doing Notting.

Interesting to look at two counties which I would regard as a reasonable barometer to measure Kildare's progress (or lack of).

2 years ago we got promoted to Division One with Galway. They are now looking forward to a 3rd year in Division One, reached the League Final last year and also reached an All-Ireland semi-final in 2018. We competed with them in Newbridge in July despite playing a good portion of the second half with 14 men.

We trounced Meath twice in 2017. We have also had great success at underage level in recent times with the pinnacle of an Ireland U20 All Ireland title last year. Yet here we are lodged in mid-table in Division Two, a team bereft of confidence and belief, while they are heading to Division One.

There are very few positives to take from the last couple of months and we now go into the Leinster championship with trepidation - if we do get to the semi-final, I fear what Dublin will do to us. It's hard to see much changing between now and then. CON doesn't do change.

Fear what Dublin will do to us

I’d be more fearful of what Wicklow will do.

Only saw highlights on TV and listened to KFM commentary. Players looked flat footed and were going through the motions without any intensity. For one of Donegal scores Kildare had 8 guys lined up as defenders inside "D" but no one got in meaningful contact or made tackle. The pace of Paul Cribben and moments of magic from Dan Flynn were common denominators is games Kildare won last year, their absence is a big loss. Playing in full forward line on Kildare team must be soul destroying, no early kick passes coming in, u get isolated in possession without off the shoulder runners. Tyrone showed the benefit of a target man full forward v Dublin and Galway but that's not the Kildare style, we just go over and back with mind the ball passing to static players.
If a captain cannot stay on field of play then he is a liability, how may times has Doyle been caught for stupid cards. If he was taking man and ball ala Glen Ryan in old days then maybe, but most cards he received are off the ball.
Are under 20s not good enough or is O'Neill too loyal to old brigade? jimmy hyland played every game, mark dempsey got 3 games , aaron masterson got about 50 minutes in total, jason gibbons about 70 minutes in total.They now have to play football by numbers and their natural talent is inhibited.I could go on od on but what the point? 2019 is looking like a write off with very few positives to date, Kildare will need to improve big time to get anywhere near Super 8's.

If there was a super 16s we’d struggle to get into it at current rate. We have a lame duck management team for rest of year, I’ve come to accept that because county board won’t get involved although they should. I only hope that by start of next year we haven’t alienated our young lads and some of the seniors who we want around.

It was a long way to Donegal.
It was a longer way home.
The demerits of the management team have been well explored above.
The demerits of (many of) the players is obvious and embarrassing.
Many of that team have ideas far above their station and if this continues we may well follow Cork next year.
I believe we will beat Wicklow because they are a very poor side.
The pecking order in Leinster now looks to me like: Dublin; Meath; Laois; Westmeath; Kildare
That may well be it.

KILL BILL wrote:

Reading  between the lines it is clear that Bolton feels Cian O'Neill is very limited tactically and holding Kildare back, he stated that we have regressed significantly and with the talent available we should be doing much better,  in all honesty can anyone disagree with this??????,  No?,  I thought so....

THE TALENT AVAILABLE - IT MUST BE ELSEWHERE THAN ON THE FIELD. WHAT TALENT WAS ON DISPLAY YESTERDAY? VERY LITTLE. MOST OF THOSE PLAYERS YESTERDAY DISGRACED THEIR COUNTY AND THEMSELVES.

“We were totally off-script. We need to look at where we’re at as a group.”
Quote from CON.
You'd hope his team talks are better than the above. Starting to sound more like Jason Ryan these days. Can you imagine Micko or Geezer coming out with a comment like that.

Nope Murof – he went full Jason Ryan yesterday.

It's a sad situation as Mayo & Newbridge Or Nowhere made for one of the most memorable moments I've ever had as a Kildare supporter, and we played some sensation football in 2017.

But Cian has done all he can & it's time for a fresh voice. Don't see us doing anything this summer unfortunately.

In fairness to him, he left us in Div 2 which is better than where Ryan left us.

Anyway, time to move on & hoping one of the underage sides can land another title this year.

Cill Dara Abu.

4 years wasted with Cian O Neill. If I hear him saying he has to look in the mirror one more time I'll crack up. The gamble of appointing man with zero managerial track record or playing career hasn't worked. It's so frustrating to see the county board refuse to hold the hands up and admit they got it wrong.. there's probably 3/4 better candidates within his own club that would have been better qualified to manage Kildare than him. And that's not even mentioning Glenn Ryan or Davey Burke!!!